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teleburst
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Post Number: 3023
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From someone who's been on both sides (The GAP actually):
http://chanelapron.blogspot.com/2009/08/retail-vs-serving.html
"My experience is in the lower end of retailers (the Gap, Ann Taylor Loft), which means my work was entirely different from someone who might work on commission at an upscale boutique or department store. Being a sales associate for me was unskilled labor in every sense of the word. All that we really needed to bring to the table was an upbeat personality, a commitment to the company, and some semblance of a personal style.
There was very little stress involved in the job, because there was just not that much to do. I would come in the week before Christmas with the store jam-packed with people, and yet my job for that day would be folding clothes in Concept 1 regardless. I would greet all customers and assist them if necessary, but so few people want help in this type of store. "Is there anything I can help you find today, ma'am?" "Just browsing". Over and over again. Very different from "Water with lemon what's that chicken that lady has there why is the music so loud I want a mayonnaise sandwich here's my discount card why is my asparagus this color oh waitress! Hello!" So yeah, in retail, "slammed" or not, I would still be folding clothes in Concept 1 all day. This is as mentally stimulating as it sounds. I suspect though that in luxury retail stores, there is much more to do and learn in terms of personalized customer service and product knowledge.
Serving is about, oh, 1000x more difficult to do, but since you can walk with $200 in 4 hours (compared to the $30 you'd make in retail), this makes sense. The energy is different, and the camaraderie of the staff is different. In restaurants, friends are made, relationships start (and end), people get drunk with the managers, and there's generally a lot of BS that goes on behind the scenes. It's an HR nightmare. I like it.
It's also more likely that servers/bartenders will be doing something else, and pursuing an unrelated career, than sales associates will be. This probably has a lot to do with the hours. It's easy to go to school, have a day job, and work in a restaurant at night. Not so easy to do that and juggle a retail job where the store closes at 9pm".
I think it's a pretty accurate portrayal of the differences that you'll find in working general retail and working waiting tables.
And yes, it was prompted by this non-leading request by me (at least as non-leading as I could possibly make it) in a comment to a post where she was talking about going back to retail part time because her ultimate goal is to end up in the fashion industry in NYC:
"I was wondering, since you've been in both worlds, whether you could compare the two jobs, retail and waiting tables in terms of complexity and stress level. And you might also touch on any similarities.
If you choose this assignment :g:, be advised that I will probably quote you in a discussion that I've been having on an internet forum.
I appreciate any insight that you might have. It might also make an interesting post for you..."
I think she pretty much nailed it, although I think it's a little more difficult to hold down a second job than she makes it out to be. It's usually pretty easy to work around school from semester to semester, but it's pretty hard to keep two jobs working, as she sort of alludes to at the end of her post. But she did validate neecey's statement about holding down a second job in retail. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 630
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 09:04 pm: |
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Teleburst said:
From someone who's been on both sides (The GAP actually):
blog states:
teleburst, from So You Want to Be a Waiter, suggested I compare my experiences in retail and restaurants. Since my only news was my discovery of how bad the bully's off-the-clock outfits are (pretty damn bad), I'd be happy to oblige.
Neecey said:
Wow, you actually requested someone blog on the subject? Well I don't disagree with her blog. I think I've continued to defend MY experience as a worker in retail.
blog states:
All that we really needed to bring to the table was an upbeat personality, a commitment to the company, and some semblance of a personal style.
Neecey said:
I agree with this. Some people brought more and some brought less. I believe I mentioned the different levels of dedication to the job.
blog states:
It's easy to go to school, have a day job, and work in a restaurant at night. Not so easy to do that and juggle a retail job where the store closes at 9pm.
Teleburst said:
But she did validate neecey's statement about holding down a second job in retail.
Neecey said:
Something that didn't really need to be an issue in the first place.
blog states:
I suspect though that in luxury retail stores, there is much more to do and learn in terms of personalized customer service and product knowledge.
Neecey said:
Exactly. And what would a luxury retail store be actually? There's seems to be no account for size or volume. I'm just wondering why this major point of mine keeps being ignored.
My store is one out of 4 flagship stores in Manhattan right across the street from THEE Macy's and down the street from The Empire State building and 2 blocks away from Madison Square Garden. Many stores in Manhattan (not just THE GAP) are quite massive.
Teleburst said:
I think it's a pretty accurate portrayal of the differences that you'll find in working general retail and working waiting tables.
Neecey said:
Yes, I've seen really slow paces in the smaller stores outside of the city and in malls. Can't get away with that in the bigger stores and busy locations in the city though.
Well I know someone personally who has done both and she felt there were similarities to both. We went over our time together at the store with her responsibilities at the restaurant she worked at. Basic comparisons. We are just really busy here in Manhattan. I'll leave it at that. (I think I've tried this before). Things get hectic in ALL places of business here for the simple fact that we are pretty much one of the busiest cities in the world. Guess we will just have portions to disagree about. Besides it wasn't my intent to say the jobs were exactly equal so the need to create this chasm between the two fields is pretty unnecessary.
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teleburst
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Post Number: 3027
Registered: 06-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 09:50 pm: |
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"Teleburst said:
But she did validate neecey's statement about holding down a second job in retail.
Neecey said:
Something that didn't really need to be an issue in the first place".
Of course, that didn't stop you from making an issue about it.
"Yes, I've seen really slow paces in the smaller stores outside of the city and in malls. Can't get away with that in the bigger stores and busy locations in the city though".
Of course, you breeze right past the point that she made about when it *is* insanely busy. It was still not comparable to waiting tables.
BTW, thanks for the plug. I was trying to avoid using this forum to promote my own blog. But I guess I didn't have to worry about it. I'll let others do it for me.
"Exactly. And what would a luxury retail store be actually"?
Not where you work - that much is clear. However, the fact that it's more cereberal at Hugo Boss doesn't make it equivalent to the stress level of waiting tables, no matter how much you try to make it that.
If I tried to compare my job to that of a fireman by pointing out some similarities, you'd rightfully call me on it, just as I'm calling you on yours.
"blog states:
All that we really needed to bring to the table was an upbeat personality, a commitment to the company, and some semblance of a personal style.
Neecey said:
I agree with this".
And there you go. You agree that all you need are the above things.
You keep defending your job as the most complicated and stressful thing since we put a man on the moon. You go girl. |
teleburst
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Post Number: 3028
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 09:54 pm: |
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"Well I know someone personally who has done both and she felt there were similarities to both. We went over our time together at the store with her responsibilities at the restaurant she worked at. Basic comparisons".
You mean you actually asked someone about it because of the conversation that we had here? How outrageous!
And you actually went over "basic comparisons"? Wow.
Here's a "basic comparison" between a server and a fireman.
We both go to work.
We both sometimes have long hours.
Neither of us work 9 to 5.
Be both save lives sometimes (a server in our restaurant saved someone's life with the Heimlich).
We both serve the public.
Gee, our jobs MUST be comparable. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
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Teleburst said:
Of course, that didn't stop you from making an issue about it.
Neecey said:
It didn't stop me from CORRECTING you about it.
Teleburst said:
Of course, you breeze right past the point that she made about when it *is* insanely busy. It was still not comparable to waiting tables
Neecey said:
Well I didn't breeze by that I've stated that I know someone whose done both and our conversations compared similarities. Each person has different experiences. The fact that my resource didn't just laugh at the idea of both experiences having similarities and proceeded to go through step by step comparisions seriously gives me enough reason to stick with my assessment. I will continue to attribute the conflicting accounts of experiences to the fact that different places have different demands. I find that reasonable. If you don't agree then that is your right. I do believe I've said that before. You want to keep this debate going (for what ungodly reason I don't know) then fine.
Teleburst said:
BTW, thanks for the plug. I was trying to avoid using this forum to promote my own blog. But I guess I didn't have to worry about it. I'll let others do it for me.
Neceey said:
You're welcome. Always glad to help someone in need.
Teleburst said:
no matter how much you try to make it that.
Neecey said:
Do I really try or do I just keep repeating my experiences over and over? You can believe what you want it doesn't change what I believe. There are plenty of people out there who believe what you believe and disagree with me. I'm fine with that. What's this desperate need to get me to give in? And this desperate need to continue to bring retail into everything?
Teleburst said:
And there you go. You agree that all you need are the above things.
Neecey said:
I agree that different people bring different levels of dedication to the job. Did you not read the rest of it? Why don't you pick individual words from my post and make up your own sentence saying Retail is easy? Your edited quotes are just as transparant.
Teleburst said:
You keep defending your job as the most complicated and stressful thing since we put a man on the moon. You go girl.
Neecey said:
Whose posts are you reading. So correcting you on your ridiculous posts is considered implying that I have the hardest job in the world. Your insane need to prove that YOUR job is the most trying in the world is the reason we're even still talking about this. It's funny how you accuse me of what you are doing. Crazy!
Teleburst said:
You mean you actually asked someone about it because of the conversation that we had here? How outrageous!
Neecey said:
No, actually she came by one day while I was posting and showed her what I was doing. That's when she laughed and that's when I remembered she used to be a server. So I asked her what she thought of the site and I believe I was on one of the threads regarding server profession vs. the rest I think. She came out with her own comments after reading a few posts and laughing of course. She however didn't post anything on her myspace page, or facebook, or willsomeonepleasebelieveme.com
Teleburst said:
Gee, our jobs MUST be comparable
Neecey said:
Except that his job is WAY more important than yours and mine for that matter. :-P
Make love not war! Peace! 8-b
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teleburst
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"Teleburst said:
Gee, our jobs MUST be comparable
Neecey said:
Except that his job is WAY more important than yours and mine for that matter".
Doesn't matter. Comparable. As comparable as sales asscociate and server.
And now, I'll leave you to servicing those people "in need". |
neecey93
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Teleburst said:
Doesn't matter.
Neecey said:
Which is all you have with regards to your argument. You want to make yet another thread to keep telling yourself that your job is really really really hard? I don't know who you're trying to convince but aside from one or two posters no one here is telling you your job is easy. Putting other jobs down isn't necessary to validate yours and I'm surprised you haven't gotten it yet. It's bordering on unhealthy. You might want to look into that.
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teleburst
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I'm not putting down your job. Just not letting you minimize *mine*. |
neecey93
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Teleburst said:
I'm not putting down your job. Just not letting you minimize *mine*.
Neecey said:
Minimize? By not believing that it's a trade on a planet all by itself? No I don't agree, although I believe it's a trying job and believe it does take a good amount of skill to do it WELL, I don't believe it's necessary to give those sort of kudos to EVERYONE in the business and I don't believe it's grueling enough to give extra consideration to those in the business. I give it the same as I give any occupation because rationalizing about how hard someone's job is, isn't, or could be when judging someone's performance is best left up to those who can consistently monitor performance. I won't sensationalize, or minimize someone's job based on the industry. People work to earn a living and that's pretty much the same across the board and that should always be respected. Do your best, take the good with the bad and get on with it. Sensationalizing is unneccessary. Doing a good job is all that is needed.
(Message edited by neecey93 on September 01, 2009)
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teleburst
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"People work to earn a living and that's pretty much the same across the board and that should always be respected".
And yet, the undercurrent (even from you sometimes) is the thought that servers are overpaid. Some even claim that it's easy. some even put the difficulty on level with other less stressful jobs while wondering why they should get paid more than that job.
That's what I'm getting at.
And I'm not sensationalizing the job. I'm speaking the truth about the job in general. I'm not exaggerating for effect like some have done about their own jobs. |
neecey93
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Teleburst said:
And yet, the undercurrent (even from you sometimes) is the thought that servers are overpaid.
Neecey said:
I believe some are. That's not news. Saying someone is overpaid isn't suggesting that a job isn't hard.
Teleburst said:
I'm speaking the truth about the job in general.
Neecey said:
And that's what I've done about mine.
Teleburst said:
I'm not exaggerating for effect like some have done about their own jobs.
Neecey said:
Who's exagerrating? I've told you what I do. You can choose not to believe me but that would be your own opinion not some fact no matter how many friends you get to post on internet blogs.
Why even pursue this ridiculous obsession of proving something that can't be proven, especially not here? Maybe if you hadn't made some outrageous comments regarding things you don't have firsthand knowledge of (like MY workday) you wouldn't be trying desperatly to validate your position now. Just admit that you will never be able to PROVE absolutely that I don't do exactly what I claim to do at my job. There's no way to do it because you don't walk in my shoes. Why someone would believe they have the power to do so is mindboggling. You and anyone else can have whatever opinion you'd like and that's quite alright but until come all the way to NY and shadow me during my workday then that's all it'll ever be. An OPINION. That's what my point has been and always will be.
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teleburst
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"Maybe if you hadn't made some outrageous comments regarding things you don't have firsthand knowledge of (like MY workday) you wouldn't be trying desperatly to validate your position now. Just admit that you will never be able to PROVE absolutely that I don't do exactly what I claim to do at my job".
I take everything that you say at your word. You just haven't communicated to me how this job is "so stressful" or even close to the same level of stress and difficulty of waiting tables. For instance, I'm not impressed at all that every once in a while, you have to work until midnight tidying up the shop. Big whoop. I'm not impressed that your store is larger than others in your chain. I'm sure you have a commesurately larger number of workers to take care of the increased business. I'm not impressed that you have to know a handful of things about your product. And I'm certainly not impressed that you might have to actually help some people one on one. |
neecey93
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Teleburst said:
I take everything that you say at your word. You just haven't communicated to me how this job is "so stressful" or even close to the same level of stress and difficulty of waiting tables.
Neecey said:
And that is your right. I've mentioned that before.
Teleburst said:
For instance, I'm not impressed at all that every once in a while, you have to work until midnight tidying up the shop.
Neecey said:
It's not for you TO be impressed. It's just the way it is and believe me it wasn't just once in awhile for the first few years. I was considered a closer and was mainly scheduled for 11pm. See blanket comments like that are incorrect yet you still feel the need to make them.
Teleburst said:
I'm not impressed that your store is larger than others in your chain.
Neecey said:
Again it's not for you to be impressed. You aren't an authority to convince.
Teleburst said:
I'm sure you have a commesurately larger number of workers to take care of the increased business.
Neecey said:
You'd be wrong. They cut people all the time if sales are down. Lower number doesn't mean less traffic and with a store our size it hurts when they only schedule a skeleton crew. You just don't know Teleburst. You're not impressed, that's a okay cause I've let it be known that although I repect servers I'm not impressed that the job actually requires work. That's not unique.
Teleburst said:
I'm not impressed that you have to know a handful of things about your product.
Neecey said:
Well it's not a handful and it's not just one product but you won't ever seem to understand the concept just for the simple fact that you WANT to argue with me.
Teleburst said:
And I'm certainly not impressed that you might have to actually help some people one on one.
Neecey said:
Thing is, you not being impressed doesn't change it from what it really is.
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3049
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 09:25 pm: |
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"Teleburst said:
For instance, I'm not impressed at all that every once in a while, you have to work until midnight tidying up the shop.
Neecey said:
It's not for you TO be impressed. It's just the way it is and believe me it wasn't just once in awhile for the first few years. I was considered a closer and was mainly scheduled for 11pm. See blanket comments like that are incorrect yet you still feel the need to make them".
So, working until 11 was routine. Now, how about those times that you talked about having to work until midnight?
Ever had to work until from 2:30pm until 2:30am? Ever had to work from 10am until 1am with a one hour break?
"Teleburst said:
I'm not impressed that your store is larger than others in your chain.
Neecey said:
Again it's not for you to be impressed. You aren't an authority to convince".
If you say so, dearie.
"You're not impressed, that's a okay cause I've let it be known that although I repect servers I'm not impressed that the job actually requires work".
Hee. I guess "work" for you is folding clothes. Cool.
"Teleburst said:
I'm sure you have a commesurately larger number of workers to take care of the increased business.
Neecey said:
You'd be wrong. They cut people all the time if sales are down. Lower number doesn't mean less traffic and with a store our size it hurts when they only schedule a skeleton crew".
"Hurt" being metaphorical of course.
Same thing happens in other stores as well. which means that they TOO have "worst case scenarios" and still, it's not deemed to be nearly the same as waiting tables.
"Teleburst said:
I'm not impressed that you have to know a handful of things about your product.
Neecey said:
Well it's not a handful and it's not just one product but you won't ever seem to understand the concept just for the simple fact that you WANT to argue with me".
Your product is CLOTHES. Just as mine is FOOD. there's absolutely no way that the product knowledge that you need comes close to what we need to know. But you keeping this pissing contest alive is pretty funny, even as you protest.
"Teleburst said:
And I'm certainly not impressed that you might have to actually help some people one on one.
Neecey said:
Thing is, you not being impressed doesn't change it from what it really is".
That's true. the reality is what the blog said, with a good bit of hyperbole - waiting tables is 1000 X more difficult a job.
But good on you for defending your job, a job that is a perfectly good way to make a living. It's cute. |
neecey93
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Teleburst said:
So, working until 11 was routine. Now, how about those times that you talked about having to work until midnight?
Neecey said:
Scheduled til 11pm which is usually not enough time to fix 3 floor store which is why I mentioned midnight because we were kept there til the job was done not what time was on our schedule. Midnight happened very often.
Teleburst said:
Ever had to work until from 2:30pm until 2:30am? Ever had to work from 10am until 1am with a one hour break?
Neecey said:
I've worked 6pm to 10am (with a one hour break)which is pulling a half-shift and rolling it into an overnighter. I've worked a 6am to a 9pm simply for the extra hours. I've even split shifts from 7am-3pm and picked up someone elses shift from 6pm-11pm but that of course was a personal choice when times were rough and I had to pull 40 hours any which way I could since it was never a guarantee early on.
Teleburst said:
If you say so, dearie.
Neecey said:
Yes I do say that you have no idea. Glad you agree with me. Now we're getting somewhere. :-)
Teleburst said:
Hee. I guess "work" for you is folding clothes. Cool.
Neecey said:
Well that was one of the tasks at the store so you'd be right that folding clothes is a part of the work I do. That's cool. Glad you're coming
around. :-)
Teleburst said:
"Hurt" being metaphorical of course.
Neecey said:
Well hurt meaning that instead of MAYBE getting out around 11pm-11:15 we were DEFINITELY leaving at midnight or later because 4 employees cut for the day were closers.
Teleburst said:
Same thing happens in other stores as well.
Neecey said:
True.
Teleburst said:
still, it's not deemed to be nearly the same as waiting tables.
Neecey said:
Your opinion. The same way I can't confirm your opinion you can't deny me my mine. That all this has turned into at this point. It's as simple as that.
Teleburst said:
Your product is CLOTHES. Just as mine is FOOD. there's absolutely no way that the product knowledge that you need comes close to what we need to know
Neecey said:
And why is that? I wouldn't mind you making that sort of comment but when your reasoning is I just don't believe you work that hard then it's just questionable.
I think the biggest problem is that I've mentioned that I recognize the difference but you continue to try and create this chasm of difference. Hey. I can agree that it's not equal cause I really don't know for a fact but you continue this ridiculous need to discount anything and everything that's put before you to understand that just folding clothes isn't all that is require with MY job.
Hell, I'm not even speaking for retail as a whole as was the case in my original topic starter threads ago. Now it's just about my experiences that are a reality. A reality that only co-workers can contest. You can definitely NOT be impressed with what I've outlined. That is your right but claim to be underwhelmed by skillful product knowledge and long hours and a dedication to customer service which is what I've put before you and not what you imagine life would be at my store.
Teleburst said:
That's true. the reality is what the blog said
Neecey said:
Reality comes in the form of a blog??? Hmmmn that says something about your grasp on reality. :-P
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teleburst
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"I've even split shifts from 7am-3pm and picked up someone elses shift from 6pm-11pm but that of course was a personal choice when times were rough and I had to pull 40 hours any which way I could since it was never a guarantee early on".
I do something similar to that twice a week. Usually not until 11pm (usually more like 10pm but a couple of times a month it ends up later than 11pm). and it's not voluntary (although, I can opt out by giving away a shift, which I do around once a month).
Pulling extra shifts voluntarily is one thing. Being routinely part of many peoples' job is another.
I wonder if you still had to wait on customers during the overnight thing that you mentioned or where you just doing inventory? I've done that in retail as well. It's a lot different than New Year's Eve in a busy restaurant, *that's* for sure.
"folding clothes is the work I do"
True. And it's an important part of a sales associate's job in a retail clothing store. No doubt about that. |
neecey93
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Teleburst said:
Pulling extra shifts voluntarily is one thing. Being routinely part of many peoples' job is another.
Neecey said:
You are correct but the staying to midnight happened to mostly everyone stuck doing an 11pm shift. Anyone in the store was pretty busy at all time. With a store like that there's always something to do and we are not allowed to stand around idly. It's annoying because whenever there was a 10-20 minute gap here and there where traffic slowed down we had to make sure we were occupied with something or else have a manager questioning why we were just standing there. Managers didn't like to hear "well 10 minutes ago I was swamped with 4 customers in my section needing help with sizes and questions" even though that's exactly what used to happened. They also saw right through the I'm standing here refolding the same shirt over and over again pretending to be busy. A store of that size can't afford NOT to use their crew at all times and be as productive as possible during lulls. If you cared about your job you didn't slack but as we all know not everyone cares so that's were you get the slackers just standing around. But remember I did mention that at this point I'm defending what I did and what MY experiences were.
Teleburst said:
I wonder if you still had to wait on customers during the overnight thing that you mentioned or where you just doing inventory?
Neecey said:
Rarely was it inventory but a couple were. Inventory counts happened maybe 3/4 times a year. It was usually a physical labor shift. No puffing just stating since you were wondering. It was to take in shipment/ open boxes/ move clothes and shelfs around shifting fixtures, mannequins and clothes to make room for more items or a new line as well as display them according to what corporate envisioned. Pretty long nights and if you weren't ready to lift, go up and down stairs with heavy hardware, loads of clothes and bins, etc. as well as move with a purpose then you had no business there. Restocking happened a couple of times a week and new lines happened every couple of months
Teleburst said:
And it's an important part of a sales associate's job in a retail clothing store.
Neecey said:
As well as many other numerous things to make a Flagship store go round. ;-)
(Message edited by neecey93 on September 02, 2009)
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teleburst
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"No puffing just stating since you were wondering".
That's indeed why I asked. Thanks for amplifying. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 665
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 02:02 pm: |
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Teleburst said:
Thanks for amplifying.
Neecey said:
So now it's just turned into a schoolyard staring contest? Accomplishments come in all shapes and sizes. I guess there are those that can only measure their own by making sure others are minimized considerably in order to look small next to their own. Otherwise the accomplishments are pretty equal but some like to be the star of the party. Don't you have anyone to give you the validation you crave for that doesn't live at a URL address? I find it hilarious as well as sad, not to mention bordering on unhealthy, that a grown man needs such validation by complete strangers on the internet but there you have it.
My accomplishments are my accomplishments and I dare say you really truly don't feel as accomplished as you would like or else you wouldn't been obsessed with trying to put others in some little box that only you are allowed to define.
(Message edited by neecey93 on September 03, 2009)
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3061
Registered: 06-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 02:21 pm: |
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"Teleburst said:
Thanks for amplifying.
Neecey said:
So now it's just turned into a schoolyard staring contest?"
That's an odd response. I guess it shows that you really *are* only interested in a pissing contest.
I really was asking because I wanted to know.
I'm almost sorry that I did now. You turn everything into martyrdom. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 667
Registered: 02-2008
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Teleburst said:
I really was asking because I wanted to know.
Neecey said:
Well then you have a problem with the English language. "Explaining" should have been the word used instead of "amplifying" but I'm sure you didn't need me to amplify that to you. Good luck with your self esteem. Makes one wonder, if you haven't gotten a handle on it by now....
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3068
Registered: 06-2003
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"Teleburst said:
I really was asking because I wanted to know.
Neecey said:
Well then you have a problem with the English language. "Explaining" should have been the word used instead of "amplifying" but I'm sure you didn't need me to amplify that to you. Good luck with your self esteem. Makes one wonder, if you haven't gotten a handle on it by now...."
Wow, you really have some chip...and a problem with the English language. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 669
Registered: 02-2008
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Teleburst said:
Wow, you really have some chip...
Neecey said:
...and spinach dip that I'm enjoying at this very moment. :-)
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3070
Registered: 06-2003
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Which came first - the dip or the dip that's enjoying the dip? |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 671
Registered: 02-2008
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Teleburst said:
Which came first - the dip or the dip that's enjoying the dip?
Neecey said:
The old bitter geezer that ironically likes to complain about other people having a chip.. ;-)
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3071
Registered: 06-2003
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This is choice coming from the girl who whines about personal attacks.
And I'm not an old geezer, I'm an old fart.
GET OFF MY LAWN! |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 674
Registered: 02-2008
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Teleburst said:
This is choice coming from the girl who whines about personal attacks.
Neecey said:
yeah, I know funny right? :-)
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3076
Registered: 06-2003
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Sure is.
So I'll look forward to you laughing instead of crying and I'll remind you how funny it is the next time you moan about it. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 677
Registered: 02-2008
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Well what do you expect? You attack, attack, attack absurdly... you don't think that you're gonna get a couple of digs in return?
C-R-A-N-K-Y! You're comical...<chuckle> :-)
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3078
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"you don't think that you're gonna get a couple of digs in return"?
Look in the mirror, sweetheart. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 681
Registered: 02-2008
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Teleburst said:
Look in the mirror, sweetheart.
Neecey said:
I do everyday and I like what I see. Wondering whether you have the same experience with your mirror... No matter, has no bearing on me either way. Tata! :-)
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3080
Registered: 06-2003
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"I do everyday and I like what I see".
Apparently, vampires can see their own reflections after all.
(Message edited by teleburst on September 06, 2009) |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 682
Registered: 02-2008
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Teleburst said:
Apparently, vampires can see their own reflections after all.
Neecey said:
Hee!
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3084
Registered: 06-2003
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Please pass the True Blood. |
neecey93
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Post Number: 684
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Good show by the way.
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teleburst
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Username: teleburst
Post Number: 3088
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Well, all except two episodes ago when it was just pretty stupid. |
neecey93
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Username: neecey93
Post Number: 686
Registered: 02-2008
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 07:21 pm: |
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getting worse as the season finale approaches when it should be getting better. I'm worried.
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