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jenaclaree
Intermediate Member
Username: jenaclaree
Post Number: 433
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 09:21 pm: | 
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I went to one of your links and found this:
"A few months ago a waiter that took our appetizer order when my husband and I ordered our drinks, FORGOT to put the appetizer order into the computer. We were waiting a while and asked him about our appetizer. It turns out he NEVER PRINTED THE TICKET because he claimed he FORGOT to put the order in, meaning it was *HIS* FAULT we waited a LONG TIME for an appetizer, NOT THE COOK'S AT ALL. We waited literally a half an hour, which that is the amount of time we should have been receiving our entrees. Anyway, he not only profusely apologized and admitted fault completely, but he offered us something for free. I told him I’d rather have something off the bill, than more food, because it would have been too much food. He got the manager to give us $5 off the check. I based my tip on the ORIGINAL AMOUNT ONLY, because he was VERY CARING and EXTREMELY NICE. MOST servers don’t say they’re sorry, much less get the manager to give the customer something for free, because they truly did feel bad they f----- up. We gave him a tad over 16% tip. I wasn’t going to tip 20%, because he made a HUGE mistake that costed us OUR TIME and I DON’T want this to happen EVER AGAIN. If I paid him 20%, he would keep forgetting to put in orders. I don’t want that type of service just to get $5 free, because it AIN’T WORTH IT. I go out to eat to enjoy myself, NOT have huge mistakes happen, so I end up being pissed off."
That just sounds like a power trip. You granted him 16% because he apologized profusely. What if he hadn't bowed down to you? No tip?
I've also been noticing on the other thread you keep talking about what a crappy job serving is. Now I defintely don't think you should serve. However, putting people down who are trying to make a living is awful. You're not better than them because you have weekends and nights off. Stop trying to act superior.
I truly hope this is just the way you act on the internet. I can't fathom you go around your office calling people idiots and morons. But nothing would surprise me with you either. |
hacinta
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Username: hacinta
Post Number: 1359
Registered: 01-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 09:40 pm: |
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The guy made a mistake, he fessed up to it and tried to make it right. lords has admitted she makes mistakes, because nobody is perfect, as she said. She is a crusty c**t, thats all I have to say about her right now.
Formerly Jammie
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coorslite
Intermediate Member
Username: coorslite
Post Number: 415
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 09:45 pm: |
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And I am a thief! I stole pennies from innocent people!!!! I made enough money to retire on!!!! Yeah me! What a waste of a human life. |
vitalryan
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Username: vitalryan
Post Number: 118
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 08:37 am: |
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I was just watching a car commercial, and in the commercial they say "The rear door opens to 168 degrees"
I can only imagine Lords, at the dealership, measuring the door, this one opens 166 degrees, I want $5,000 of the car, right now, and an apology because the mechanic who put it together was TOO LAZY to make sure we get our extra 2 degrees, how is my husband supposed to pleasure me with the baseball bat now, huh? |
lords_of_acid
Advanced Member
Username: lords_of_acid
Post Number: 788
Registered: 01-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 05:08 pm: |
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jenaclaree
“What if he hadn't bowed down to you? No tip?”
For one thing, he DIDN’T “BOW” down to us. Secondly, he just did as *ANY DECENT HUMAN BEING THAT HAS FEELINGS WOULD DO. For once, there was a CARING WAITER that did the RIGHT THING.
Also, you don’t know the ENTIRE STORY. I didn’t go into so much detail about the other stuff. I asked for him to bring the 2 sides of mayonnaise(they have mustard at the table at Fox and Hound) BEFORE my meal and he said he would. He brings 2 half sides, which I am able to make a full side with putting the half of one in the other. I had to ask him again(which I SHOULDN’T have to do, considering I ordered (2) SIDES, NOT 2 “HALF” sides, to get another side of mayonnaise. This is an INTERRUPTION in our dining experience for NO REAL REASON. Even if he didn’t actually FILL those containers, he KNEW WHAT I SAID. It’s getting to the point that I have lately had to tell the servers “FILL THEM ALL THE WAY.” I think that’s RIDICULOUS, because when someone orders a “SIDE”, they don’t say “HALF” side, so it SHOULD be filled the ENTIRE way up. WHY NOT give a little extra from what you are assuming the person would have wanted not to have to go back to get more? Also, I saw him hug someone that he knew and was talking to them INSTEAD OF *WORKING* as he SHOULD HAVE BEEN. THAT, RIGHT THERE, may have been a culprit of our forgotten appetizer that we waited a half an hour for NO REASON for. Also, I had to ask him to get straws after he left the table real fast, which I feel customers shouldn’t have to do. They should automatically give customers a straw as other servers have at Fox and Hound.
As far as the tip goes, it would depend on certain things:
1. Did he apologize at all and didn’t offer to get the manager or offer us anything? If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have gotten a thing. Simple as that. Saying you’re sorry for a mess up YOU caused due to possibly chit-chatting and hugging SHOULD get an apology. If he had time to hug someone, he had time to make sure he didn’t forget to ring in the appetizer order. Also, the server SHOULD try to make up for a mistake in their ACTIONS as well by getting the manager to possibly comp something.
2. If he would have apologized PROFUSELY, but would NOT have offered us anything or gotten a manager, 5%.
3. Just a “Sorry about that” or “Sorry” as well as no getting the manager or offering us anything would have gotten a 2% tip.
4. This wouldn’t probably happen, but I’ll play the scenario out: If he would have gotten a manager to comp something or offer us something, but no apology, 10%. WHY? ACTIONS DO SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. I still feel though, it’s NICE and gives me a calming feeling when someone is NICE enough to apologize for their mistakes, which DOES make me tip more.
“That just sounds like a power trip.”
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with “POWER.” It’s all about so this CRAP OF HELL DOESN’T HAPPEN AGAIN. Do you think I really enjoyed having to wait 30 freakin minutes a f*** appetizer considering I saw he had time to hug a lady and talk to that lady for a minute or so? NO, I didn’t enjoy my outing as much as I usually would if that wouldn’t have happened. You have to punish the person in SOME WAY in order for the situation to NEVER, EVER, EVER, HAPPEN AGAIN. You learn MORE through being punished than if you don’t penalize the person. Think about when people do crimes. Yes, some people will just never learn, but some people DO learn, because they don’t want to go back to jail. This is the SAME TYPE of situation. If I would have had him again, he may have forgotten our appetizer order AGAIN if I would have given him 20% or more. I’d rather that not happen again. To prevent it, you PENALIZE the person. If a server knows for sure they’ll get a 40% tip from a certain customer no matter what happened like a wrong entrée and an major overcharge in the same visit, but still tipped 40%, do you honestly think that server will care to make sure they are charging that customer right and their food will be right? HELL NO, because they know they’ll get paid ANYWAY NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO. He played on the job, so therefore, he messed up. He forgot to put the order. We ordered our soft drinks and appetizer at the same time. He didn’t go put the order in. That’s NOT our fault. He should have cared MORE ABOUT HIS CUSTOMERS THAT WERE STRANGERS, THAN CUSTOMERS THAT WERE HIS FRIENDS OR FAMILY, because I feel that’s the CAUSE of WHY he forgot. He should have been doing his JOB INSTEAD and that wouldn’t have happened more than likely.
“However, putting people down who are trying to make a living is awful.”
Vitalryan put my job down by saying: “Get a decent job, lol.. go WAIT TABLES and make some decent money.” So he put my job down, SO WHY DO YOU FEEL HE HAS A RIGHT TO PUT MY JOB DOWN, BUT I CAN’T DO THE SAME ***EXACT*** THING BACK TO HIM? You are pointing at me, when I’m NOT the one that started putting people’s jobs down.
Also, do you think EVERY JOB is decent? A prostitute or a stripper to me is an AWFUL way of making a living. Prostitute would be really bad. I don’t and MOST people would think those jobs aren’t decent. I am wondering if you would put down prostitution or not? If you are for it, that’s just disgusting and you know it. People are at higher risk for getting stds from doing that.
“You're not better than them because you have weekends and nights off. Stop trying to act superior.”
Vitalryan is, SO WHY can’t I fight BACK WITH THE SAME CRAP HE GAVE ME? HE STARTED THIS CRAP! BLAME VITALRYAN FOR PUTTING AN OFFICE JOB DOWN. There’s NOTHING WRONG with people that work in an office, NOTHING. I also NEVER, EVER, EVER, said I was superior or better than someone else. I don’t think that at ALL. I just rather have weekends off and MOST people in general would, if you are honest with yourself. MOST server jobs are crappy jobs, because you have to take customer complaints, work holidays, work weekends, possibly take a loss from a zero tip, etc. You don’t have vacation time. You have weird schedules like my sister-in-law had to work a few hours, come back home, and then go back to work for 5-11 or something like that when she worked at Chevy’s Fresh Mex. MOST people wouldn’t want that. As I stated before, she even got called on her day off to come to work. WHO wants to work and NEVER have a day off for 2 weeks or more? MOST people DON’T.
“I can't fathom you go around your office calling people idiots and morons.”
I don’t call people names. I do my WORK! |
jenaclaree
Intermediate Member
Username: jenaclaree
Post Number: 434
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 05:29 pm: |
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"You have to punish the person in SOME WAY in order for the situation to NEVER, EVER, EVER, HAPPEN AGAIN. You learn MORE through being punished than if you don’t penalize the person."
Well it's not really your job to teach them anything. If you don't feel like tipping them that's your perogative but please don't think they're learning anything from you. They're not. They probably just think you're cheap. I teach children and understand the concept of punishment. If you don't tell people why they're being punished nothing will ever be fixed.
"Vitalryan put my job down by saying: “Get a decent job, lol.. go WAIT TABLES and make some decent money.” So he put my job down, SO WHY DO YOU FEEL HE HAS A RIGHT TO PUT MY JOB DOWN, BUT I CAN’T DO THE SAME ***EXACT*** THING BACK TO HIM? You are pointing at me, when I’m NOT the one that started putting people’s jobs down."
Well he did it because you constantly come on here and criticize servers. In reality you started it.
"I also NEVER, EVER, EVER, said I was superior or better than someone else"
You say this, but then you follow it up with reasons why you're job is better.
"I just rather have weekends off and MOST people in general would, if you are honest with yourself. MOST server jobs are crappy jobs, because you have to take customer complaints, work holidays, work weekends, possibly take a loss from a zero tip, etc. You don’t have vacation time. You have weird schedules like my sister-in-law had to work a few hours, come back home, and then go back to work for 5-11 or something like that when she worked at Chevy’s Fresh Mex. MOST people wouldn’t want that. As I stated before, she even got called on her day off to come to work. WHO wants to work and NEVER have a day off for 2 weeks or more? MOST people DON’T."
I don't agree with you at all on this. I served and enjoyed it. I enjoyed my time at the restaurant. If I didn't want to come in on a day off I acted like a grown up and said no. They can't make you do it.
"I don’t call people names. I do my WORK"
Good! I've exchanged e-mails with you after Katrina and know you can be nice and not so insulting. And in your last post you wrote without calling me one name. Why don't you do that for everybody else? |
big_momma
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Username: big_momma
Post Number: 312
Registered: 10-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 06:14 pm: |
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"This is an INTERRUPTION in our dining experience for NO REAL REASON".
You aren't having a "dining experience", you're eating in an establishment one step down from a cafeteria.
LOL |
lords_of_acid
Advanced Member
Username: lords_of_acid
Post Number: 789
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 07:54 pm: |
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jenaclaree
“Well it's not really your job to teach them anything.”
I have EVERY RIGHT TO IN THE TIP. My service was NOT up to the “NORMAL” standards, so the tip went down. Heck, I gave him above 15% on the amount BEFORE the discount even, so give me a break. It ain’t like I left him 11% or something, which would have been mean for being so nice and generous to us.
“If you don't tell people why they're being punished nothing will ever be fixed.”
You don’t get it? HE *KNEW* WHAT HE DID WRONG, BECAUSE HE ADMITTED HE FORGOT? So since he KNEW what he did wrong, he KNEW WHY he was getting a tip that wasn’t for good or great service. If I penalize someone for bringing me a refill, they may feel they don’t want to interrupt me, that I would benefit from it, so in that type of situation, I would have to tell the person, but when they *FORGET ANYTHING*, it’s like DUH, you know you messed up, so you know you should be penalized for it. You know if you forget someone’s coke. You know if you take the order and bring the food to the table if it was delivered wrong or not. You may not know if the food runner doesn’t tell the server the food was wrong if the food runner brings the food to the table, so that is something the customer could tell the server. Most of the time, though, when my food was wrong that was brought out by a food runner, they food runner just went and got our server. If you take 10 or 15 minutes to get the check, it’s like common sense that you won’t get a good tip making people wait longer than necessary. If you overcharge someone, it’s like DUH, you won’t get a good tip more than likely. Bringing the check too soon is obvious if the customer orders something else, which the server KNOWS they should have tried to find out first if the customers were finished instead of making them feel RUSHED out. If you take 10 minutes or more to greet someone, it’s like DUH, that you won’t get a nice tip more than likely. If you spill something on someone or the table, it’s possible the customer may get upset about it and not leave as much of a tip if their clothes are messed up.
My point is, MOST OF THE TIME, the server **KNOW** EXACTLY **WHY** THEY RECEIVED THE AMOUNT OF TIP THEY GOT.
So, when you say that they don’t know if you don’t tell them, that doesn’t make sense to me as far as this situation goes with the forgotten appetizer. HE KNOWS what he did wrong and to try better next time. He SHOULDN’T expect a good or great tip for forgetting something major such as an appetizer. So I DON’T have to verbally tell him or leave a note in that situation.
“You say this, but then you follow it up with reasons why you're job is better.”
My job is better to ME. NOT necessarily better for ANYONE ELSE. Just like vitalryan wants to work doing his own business, which he thinks that’s better for him. My job in my opinion is better for me.
“I served and enjoyed it.”
So, are you telling me that you NEVER had someone complain to you or be mean? I bet you have at some point. Working with customers is tuff. At the donut shop, I had mean customers even in drive-thru, which I didn’t get tipped at much for drive-thru. One lady at drive-thru the first few months I worked there had ordered 6 white kastle type of burgers. Anyway, they are cooked to order. They have other donut shops that don’t cook them to order in Louisiana. Anyway, while I was waiting for the cook to cook them, this lady knocked on the window and said it just like this: “WHERE ARE MY BURGERS?” I told her they have to have time to cook. I feel that was RUDE and it did hurt my feelings. I don’t get WHY she couldn’t have just asked NICELY about how much longer she’d have to wait or she could have just waited like everyone else did.
“Good! I've exchanged e-mails with you after Katrina and know you can be nice and not so insulting. And in your last post you wrote without calling me one name. Why don't you do that for everybody else?”
It gets frustrating when people call me names first. Like since when did I insult someone FIRST about their weight? They insulted me saying I’m “Loads” or “fat ass.” I am TRULY NOT FAT. Also, it does get difficult when I am trying to explain something, but they either put me down(like big_momma seems to always put me down with spelling, grammar, my taste in food, etc.). I didn’t put her down for her taste. I only pointed out her spelling, when she pointed out that I had bad spelling and grammar. I just treat people back mean if they treat me mean.
This is the type of stuff that gets me VERY ANGRY when people are into themselves so much that they only see having fun and not doing their job and you wonder WHY I have called people names? This I find to be a MEAN response back then. This was about the bartender doing the shot before he said “Can I help you?”
“How selfish is HE? How selfish are YOU is the real question? It takes like 5 seconds at most to drink a shot. And you don't know if a customer bought it for him or not and wanted him to take it. You don't know what was going on. All you know is that you had to wait 5 seconds longer. I can't believe you capitalized SERVE like that. They're not your personal slaves. Stop treating them like that!”
I wasn’t treating him that way. If anything, he was treating customers waiting to order something like our time didn’t matter, ONLY HIS STOMACH. I use to have the 2p.m.-10p.m. shift with no breaks or a way to eat dinner at a reasonable time, so sometimes if it was slow and I’d have the time, I’d eat a meal at work, even though I was interrupted sometimes due to customers walking in. I did stop IMMEDIATELY from eating my meal to serve the customers. I treated them with RESPECT as they should be. If I was selfish, then I would have continued eating and let the customer wait for me to finish. It wasn’t just 5 seconds longer, it was him having to pour the shot as well as got the bottle out. He then he took a shot when the customer did a shot. The bartender was essentially serving HIMSELF FIRST, BEFORE HIS CUSTOMERS. HE WAS THE SELFISH ONE.
THIS IS WHAT MADE ME REALLY MAD AT YOU and it makes me want to call you a name, because I NEVER, EVER, EVER, treated customers like that. Granted, the guy that had a shot was a customer, but there’s NO RULE stating the bartender HAD to take it with him as well as the customer COULD HAVE WAITED if he wanted the bartender to play on the job with him essentially. I STOPPED EATING my dinner to serve people, so they should be UNSELFISH in that SAME EXACT WAY. Yes, I know I was getting paid to eat on the job, but there was only so much to clean up and if there were not a lot of customers, sometimes I didn’t have anything else to do. On New Years eve, I didn’t have time to eat dinner and had to wait til after I z’d-out the register after 10:30p.m. or so at night just to eat. That schedule sucked when I had it. My point is, I was NOT being selfish, because sometimes even customers would notice when they walked in and would tell me not to get up and I would tell them: “CUSTOMERS COME FIRST.” It’s TRUE, customers SHOULD come FIRST, ALWAYS. I wasn’t working if I was eating my dinner, so it wouldn’t be right to make a customer wait for me to play around essentially. Same thing with the bartender. He was taking a shot. That’s NOT WORKING. That’s playing. Ingesting something inside his stomach was benefiting HIM. Asking what I want to drink would be benefiting me, the customer, which that’s what he should have done IMMEDIATELY instead of making me wait for him to INGEST a shot. He was only thinking of his tip and his stomach. You KNOW that’s the TRUTH. He was NOT THINKING about customers that wanted to order something. The customer had his shot in his hand, which that customer COULD WAIT to have it with the bartender, because that is PLAYTIME. When you aren’t making or serving a product for the customer or ringing the person up, you aren’t doing your job, PERIOD! Ingesting a shot is NOT WORKING. It’s helping the bartender’s tips and stomach, THAT’S IT.
In other words, I took my hunger wants and put them to the side to serve a customer, so WHY couldn’t a bartender treat his customers the SAME WAY? I know, he’s a selfish person that ONLY cares about money and drinking. If I would have been the bartender, I would have given the shot to the customer as ordered and told the guy that if he wanted to have a shot with me he’d have to wait to take it with me. I would have done the *RIGHT* THING by treating customers as they should. Me taking a shot with a customer would be PLAYING around. That’s NOT RIGHT! I COULD NEVER, EVER, EVER, fathom treating someone like that. The customer would have gotten his shot at least, but that was the CUSTOMER’S DECISION to wait to take it with the me, the bartender. The bartender can decide to serve people instead of ingest a liquid for ONLY HIS OWN BENEFIT.
You wonder WHY I want to call you a name? It makes me mad that you reacted to my post so mean back then. You called me “SELFISH”, even though I wasn’t and it was the BARTENDER that was. My point is, you talk about calling names, look at what you wrote. You expect people to be nice to you, but you wrote something mean to me right off the bat when I posted about this story. I find you reacted very mean about it. You also acted as if the customers ordering items matter less than the bartender having his fun and big tip. I am not more important than the next customer, but I am not LESS important either. I feel he made me feel LESS important than his shot he took. I should be treated EQUALLY as important as that customer by him NOT taking the shot and asked me what I wanted to drink instead. HE is the one that was SELFISH and treated me like less of a person. I NEVER ONCE gave him a bad tip the other times I was there. 20% is what I gave him the other times, so I don’t get why he just ignored that I was standing waiting to order almost in front of him, so I could watch him take a shot with a customer. That was just plain RUDE and SELFISH. He was ONLY THINKING OF HIMSELF.
Also, you accused me of acting like he was a slave. That customer was by acting as if the bartender had to take a shot with the customer. That’s doing MORE than what a person that serves someone does. I didn’t tell him ANYTHING. I just ordered my drink and gave him my zero tip as deserved for making me wait for *HIM* to ingest something into *HIS* body. ONLY if the bartender was coughing and needed water, would I consider that not selfish, because I don’ t think most people would want someone to couch on their drinks or food.
My point is, you don't see when you were mean to me off the bat. You reacted very mean about that post. To think, you expect me not to call you a name, but you insulted me saying I was selfish. You were reacting to a first post about this story, so I hadn't done ANYTHING mean to you, but you attacked me pretty well. All I am saying is, LOOK IN THE MIRROR who calls people names. You can't expect me not to call you a name, but you call me names. That's not fair, is it? No, it's not. I am sorry if I called you a name, but I hope to get a sorry back for you calling me selfish about this. I bet you won't, because you will still be mad about this subject. See, it's HARD NOT to call a person a name when you can't understand how they could be so unfair. Like you think I'm unfair and I think your being unfair about the shot situation. It makes people get mad when people don't agree on things if it's something that touches the heart. Like, to me, serving customers immediately is something I feel VERY STRONGLY about. To you, you feel that bartenders should make customers wait to order. It does make me mad that you feel that way. I am trying in this post NOT to call you a name. It's kind of hard when you did as well as the way you reacted to this situation.
It's hard to be nice to big_momma or coorslite, because all they want to do is call me names or put me down.
big_momma I found put me down the MOST out of ANYONE on this board. I find she's the meanest one on here. She can't find anything right about me it seems. I do EVERYTHING wrong to her.
You can't expect me not to call someone a name if they call me one. I know that's childish, but it is hard. |
big_momma
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Username: big_momma
Post Number: 313
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 08:38 pm: |
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Did I upset you Loads of Ass?
You offend me in every way. You are offensive in general. All you care about is yourself, your pennies and having your ass kissed.
You admitted that you didn't care about Katrina victims because you yourself weren't really hurt by Katrina. People died in that hurricane and all you cared about while they were dying was getting your ranch dressing at a dive in TN. You even admitted that you don't care about the war or the people dying for your country overseas; you don't watch the news because none of that stuff effects you.
You disgust me. You have your head so far up your ass the most important thing to you is getting five star service in trashy restaurants. You represent what is wrong with America today.
You disrespect human beings because they make mistakes. You feel that you're powerful holding a dollar or two over people's heads.
You are a pig in every way. You have no respect for people in general. You have the breeding of a farm animal.
I call you names and you will never understand why. You're so ignorant you'll never understand. You represent the children born of ignorant people and I keep hoping that you've been bred out of civilization, but you remind me that the world has a long way to go. |
jenaclaree
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Username: jenaclaree
Post Number: 435
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 10:03 pm: |
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Lords,
You haven't called me a name. Not that I remember. I didn't call you a name either. Selfish is a character trait. I felt you were being selfish and I called you on it. No I will not apologize for it. Not because I'm mad as you said but because you are selfish. End of discussion. |
penelopemarie
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Username: penelopemarie
Post Number: 134
Registered: 06-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 10:49 pm: |
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wow i agree with what big momma said... i like that you have the breeding of a farm animal...i think it is quite exact. if you weren't so ignorant and annoying i would not insult you. i just find it unbelievable that at his time someone with your idiotic way of thinking and immature way of acting still exists. the way you are just makes you plain garbage, waste of a human person. you have no consideration and only "like" people if they agree with you and they bring you all your stupid sauces filled up. who the hell eats 2 whole sides of mayo. EWWWWWW. if you do that is disgusting, if you don't then why the f*** do you want them filled to the top. does that complete you as a person. GET A F****** LIFE.... |
tipqueen
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Username: tipqueen
Post Number: 353
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 06:57 am: |
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I asked for him to bring the 2 sides of mayonnaise(they have mustard at the table at Fox and Hound) BEFORE my meal and he said he would. He brings 2 half sides, which I am able to make a full side with putting the half of one in the other.
PIG
Did he apologize at all and didn’t offer to get the manager or offer us anything?
CHEAP ASS PIG
This is an INTERRUPTION in our dining experience
LOSER!!! (give me a BREAK!)
If he would have gotten a manager to comp something or offer us something, but no apology, 10%.
CHEAP ASS LOSER!!
. That customer was by acting as if the bartender had to take a shot with the customer. That’s doing MORE than what a person that serves someone does. I didn’t tell him ANYTHING. I just ordered my drink and gave him my zero tip as deserved for making me wait for *HIM* to ingest something into *HIS* body. ONLY if the bartender was coughing and needed water, would I consider that not selfish
CHEAP ASS LOSER PIG!!
You are sooo way off the beaten path I am surprised you haven't been struck down by lightening.... you know the rod that comes down and nails SELFISH IGNORANT LOSER PIGS!!!
Oh just wait... YOURS IS A COMING!!! wish we could all be there to see it!! |
tricky
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Username: tricky
Post Number: 194
Registered: 05-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 08:27 pm: |
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I was in the car the other day and I thought of Lords. Yes, I thought of Lords. See, I was sitting at a stoplight.
In Lords world there would be no stoplights. Only four way stops. That way everyone would take turns. Whoever got there first would go. In order, around and around and around. And, if you were the tenth car back, well, you might get to go tomorrow.
Instead, we have stoplights. They take turns being green, yellow and red. When a light is red, several cars stop. They don't get to take their individual turns, but instead wait until the light turns green and they get to take a collective turn.
Sort of how things in a restaurant sometimes work.
Each person doesn't get tended to exactly in order, but in a semi-order. It's not as neat and obvious an order in the restaurant as at a traffic intersection, but the principle is the same.
In traffic, we have stoplights that make it more efficient for society as a whole. Sure, if you are the very first person to get stopped at a red light, it takes you a little longer to get through that intersection and to your destination. But, the current system has all of the people at the intersection "served" before a Stop sign intersection would be halfway clear.
The same thing happens in a restaurant. If you are the very first person to sit down, your experience might be slowed down by a very small amount. A few minutes over the course of an hour dining experience, (so 5% at most), but it allows the third and fourth people to enter the restaurant to be served in a timely manner. The timely manner which would be impossible if "turns" were a serious consideration. Those third and fourth people are eating dinner in the current system when they would be receiving sodas in a turn-based world.
Seriously. Think of a world with only Stop signs, not stoplights. That's the world Lords lives in. |
coorslite
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As far as the tip goes, it would depend on certain things:
1. Did he apologize at all and didn’t offer to get the manager or offer us anything? If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have gotten a thing. Simple as that. Saying you’re sorry for a mess up YOU caused due to possibly chit-chatting and hugging SHOULD get an apology. If he had time to hug someone, he had time to make sure he didn’t forget to ring in the appetizer order. Also, the server SHOULD try to make up for a mistake in their ACTIONS as well by getting the manager to possibly comp something.
2. If he would have apologized PROFUSELY, but would NOT have offered us anything or gotten a manager, 5%.
3. Just a “Sorry about that” or “Sorry” as well as no getting the manager or offering us anything would have gotten a 2% tip.
4. This wouldn’t probably happen, but I’ll play the scenario out: If he would have gotten a manager to comp something or offer us something, but no apology, 10%. WHY? ACTIONS DO SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. I still feel though, it’s NICE and gives me a calming feeling when someone is NICE enough to apologize for their mistakes, which DOES make me tip more.
Since I am offensive also.... let me offend some more. This is so childish of you. Servers bring what the expo gives them to bring. Depending on the size of the ramiken, and what a normal person thinks a "side" is. For you a BOWL would be what you need to order and then be charged at least $5.00 extra for it. The menu prices figure in every ingrediant, sides, ect.... Your gallon of ranch dressing is NOT figured into those prices.
I don't care if the server was hugging someone instead of kissing your filthy scamming behind. A little over a year ago (yes I can remember this because it was life altering!) one of the cooks fiancee's was killed in a car accident. There was hugs, kisses, tears, everywhere between employees, customers. And we even had all servers tell everyone in thier sections there was going to be a delay in food and service because of what had happened. We had our preshift line up on the cooks line. It lasted 20 minutes. The restaurant was on auto pilot. That night and the rest of the week we collected money for him in one of your hated tip jars. We collected $2000 in 4 days to help him get a car since the one she was driving when she was killed was thier only vehicle. Now I know you don't understand human compassion so this will go way over your head..... and will come back with it was somehow her fault... she made it rain and whatever other mean thing you can say... Point to this story, people that work in the restaurant business have close ties with the ones they work with and thier families and the customers. A hug, a friendly hello, a shot, chit chat... it's part of the job! Restaurants are not the military. They are not the nutshop you worked at. Until you actually work in one you need to keep your nasty comments to yourself. Restaurant workers are a breed of itself. We are strong enough to love each other and feel each others pain. You are only concerned about you.
Offend you enough? You can call me whatever you want. Your opinion. But I will tell you right now I don't care what you think of me. You are a vial human being with no concern for others. You spew about how we only care about the money we make and how I am a thief. Screw you. Yep, I'm mean and uncaring. And selfish. Whatever! |
coorslite
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Lords waited on herself............
So, are you telling me that you NEVER had someone complain to you or be mean? I bet you have at some point. Working with customers is tuff. At the donut shop, I had mean customers even in drive-thru, which I didn’t get tipped at much for drive-thru. One lady at drive-thru the first few months I worked there had ordered 6 white kastle type of burgers. Anyway, they are cooked to order. They have other donut shops that don’t cook them to order in Louisiana. Anyway, while I was waiting for the cook to cook them, this lady knocked on the window and said it just like this: “WHERE ARE MY BURGERS?” I told her they have to have time to cook. I feel that was RUDE and it did hurt my feelings. I don’t get WHY she couldn’t have just asked NICELY about how much longer she’d have to wait or she could have just waited like everyone else did. |
tipqueen
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AGAIN!...... "me me me, why why why, blah blah blah, me me me" such a SHALLOW person Lords of Ignorance is |
penelopemarie
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"this lady knocked on the window and said it just like this: “WHERE ARE MY BURGERS?” I told her they have to have time to cook. I feel that was RUDE and it did hurt my feelings. I don’t get WHY she couldn’t have just asked NICELY about how much longer she’d have to wait or she could have just waited like everyone else did."
i don't know why your *feelings* were hurt because you act the same way when you don't get you 6 sides of ranch all filled up to the top with your 4 sides of mayo and tartar sauce. if you don't get your drinks in 1 and a half minutes flat, it is wrong, if you have to wait for your bill, or to cook something, then you throw a fit.
THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU ACT, AND WORSE. don't do things that you do not like people doing to you. |
rev_rund
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"If I would have been the bartender, I would have given the shot to the customer as ordered and told the guy that if he wanted to have a shot with me he’d have to wait to take it with me."
Lords I was wondering if you were ever going to answer my question about the ***SELFISH***** shot taking bartender. What happens if the when the bartender tells the customer who bought him the shot to wait, that customer calls the bartender selfish and refuses to tip and leaves?
If that customer insists on the bartender doing the shot BEFORE he serves you, and you INSIST on the bartender serving you before he does the shot, who is right you or the other customer?
If you say you are right explain why how you want to be served is right and how someone else wants to be served is wrong. |
lords_of_acid
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penelopmarie
“Who the hell eats 2 whole sides of mayo.”
I have at times had to ask for more when they didn’t fill them, so I ask for them to fill I all the way from the get go MOST of the time.
tricky”
“The same thing happens in a restaurant.”
NO, it DOESN’T. Traffic flow is VERY different. What about when you are in line at a store? It goes by next, next, next. When you are on hold on the phone, there may be an automated system that picks up, but the message states “Your call will be answered in the order it was received.”
THOSE are ****CUSTOMER**** ISSUES. Traffic is NOT a CUSTOMER ISSUE. Also, with traffic, there would be accidents everywhere and you would be better off walking almost if they did traffic wait each car turn by turn. Traffic DOES go turn-by-turn for the most part. A certain section has the red, while we have the green. The other section has the green while we have the red. There’s taking turns. Sure, sometimes you get lucky and don’t get a red light. For the most part though, you end up getting SOME red light at SOME POINT.
When customers are handed their drinks when being triple sat and let’s say you got all the non-alcoholic drinks for 3 tables on the tray. The FIRST table SHOULD get their first out of COMMON DECENY and what you’d do if you were in a line. The first person waited in the waiting area FIRST, got seated FIRST, so they should receive their drinks FIRST. Then the second table’s drinks SECOND, then the THIRD table’s drinks third. If you give the 2nd or 3rd table their drinks first, that is just plain RUDE, WRONG, and IMMORAL. Have some CONSIDERATION for people’s wait. Would you like someone to CUT in front of you in a line? If you give the third people their drinks first, you are letting them CUT in front of the 2nd and 1st tables. Now, honestly, don’t you tink that’s NOT FAIR? IT’S NOT!
coorslite
“Servers bring what the expo gives them to bring.”
NOW, WHY IN THE HELL WOULD ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND BRING SOMETHING THEY CAN PLAINLY ***SEE*** IS WRONG OUT TO THE CUSTOMER? If someone states “2 sides”, then bring 2 sides, NOT 2 half sides, so if the expo fills it wrong, the SERVER SHOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO TELL THE EXPO FILL IT ALL THE WAY, because the customer asked for “a SIDE” NOT “HALF-SIDE.” 2 sides should NOT be enough to take some out of one and combine it in another to make one whole, then I was brought 2 HALF-SIDES. The SERVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING OUT THE FOOD CORRECTLY AS FAR AS WHAT THEY CAN SEE THAT IS. SIDES ARE WHOLE SIDES, UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED. Like if said a little mustard. Then that would be considered “half” at the most.
“I don't care if the server was hugging someone.”
That’s because it wasn’t YOU and YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT YOURSELF!
“And we even had all servers tell everyone in thier sections there was going to be a delay in food and service because of what had happened.”
So it’s OK to make other people wait for a “PERSONAL MATTER?” THAT’S VERY SELFISH! HOW COULD YOU AND YOUR CO-WORKERS DO THAT FOR 20 minutes. ZERO TIP AND A COMPLAINT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. YOU CAN’T DO THAT TO CUSTOMERS. Since you did, you are a SELFISH PERSON. I would have thought of my CUSTOMERS, instead of that person, because you are at ******WORK*****, NOT AT HOME OR SOME PLACE ELSE. YOU WERE ON THE CLOCK, SO YOU SHOULDN’T BE DEALING WITH THAT THERE. THE COOK SHOULD HAVE LEFT and if there were no other cooks, the restaurant should have CLOSED out of CONSIDERATION FOR CUSTOMER WAITS.
“We are strong enough to love each other and feel each others pain.”
WHAT ABOUT THE HUNGER PAINS YOU CAUSED THOSE INNOCENT CUSTOMERS WAITING FOR THEIR FOOD, YOU SELFISH BITCH? YOU ARE SELFISH, VERY! I WOULD THINK OF THE CUSTOMERS. I would have a JOB TO DO, NOT TO FREAKIN GIVE HUGS NA CRY. I HOPE YOU GOT STIFFED THAT NIGHT, BECAUSE YOU DESERVED IT.
See, ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS YOURSELF! YOU OVERCHARGED PEOPLE. YOU DIDN’T APOLOGIZE TO ONE OF THEM. YOU OVERCHARGED CUSTOMERS FOR ALMOST 2 WEEKS. SEE HOW YOU ***DON’T**** CARE ABOUT YOUR CUSTOMERS! WHAT A SELFISH BITCH YOU ARE!
What if you were a doctor? You'd let a patient die over a co-worker's personal situation? I bet you would. That's how SELFISH YOU ARE! REMEMBER, WORK DOESN'T STOP JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE THERE HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE! If they have a personal issue, they should go home. Workers shouldn't stop everything they are doing and make INNOCENT CUSTOMERS WAIT. WHERE DO YOU GET OFF STOPPING YOUR WORK? If you have to go to the bathroom that's one thing that's necessary, but to cry and hug a co-worker can LITERALLY ***********WAIT**********! I REALLY HOPE WORKERS AT RESTAURANTS OR STORES TREAT YOU UNFAIRLY AND MAKE YOU WAIT LONGER FOR NO REAL REASON. YOU DESERVE IT! I HOPE SOMEONE CUTS IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN YOU ARE HUNGRY OR TIRED OR IN A HURRY. THAT WILL SHOW YOU SELFISH BITCH!
rev_rund
“If that customer insists on the bartender doing the shot BEFORE he serves you, and you INSIST on the bartender serving you before he does the shot, who is right you or the other customer?
If you say you are right explain why how you want to be served is right and how someone else wants to be served is wrong.”
As I explained to you before in my blog, the customer is asking for an “ACT” of drinking something with him, which is NOT a “SALE” to the bar. Yes, the shot is a sale, but NOT the *ACT OF DRINKING WITH HIM ISN’T*.
Someone else wants the bartender to “PLAY” instead of serve by asking him to ingest a liquid along with the customer. So, that act is NOT ***SERVICE***, it is PLAYTIME. If I drink my coke at the counter at the donut shop instead of serve a customer, I am ONLY thinking of myself. Let’s say someone wanted me to drink a few sips of coke with them at the counter and a customer walked in waiting to order. I would NOT take those few sips, even if it meant skipping out on a tip, because MORALLY, I WOULDN'T be thinking of that person that wants me to play around with them or my stomach. Instead, I would be thinking of the customer that just walked in that wants to ***BUY*** something. THAT WAS MY JOB, which was to **SELL** products. Bartenders job is to sell products. They aren’t doing *ACTS* like strippers. Their job is to sell the products of the bar. The bartender only thought of his tip, his stomach, and playing around instead of *****SELLING THE PRODUCTS****! If he wants an *ACT*, go to a strip club is my recommendation. |
caby_kay
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anyone else curious about the amount of bodily fluids that loads unknowingly consumes whenever she dines out? a little jizz in her ranch, some spit in her tartar sauce, and her drink stirred w/a smelly, sweaty, itchy c*ck! |
vitalryan
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Holy crap, lords, agian, please just DIE in your sleep or something, you are freakin SICK.
For one, the act of BUYING the shot FOR the bartender to take a shot with the customer is PART OF THE SERVICE. PERIOD. Why is that so hard to understand? Most NORMAL, DECENT people, unlike you of course, are at a bar having drinks to have a good time, you should be enjoying the moment with everyone else, whining and crying about a bartender taking an extra 10 seconds to do a shot is so stupid, and the bartender would rather give BETTER SERVICE by socializing and taking shots with customers than deal with trash like you. Restaurants typically hire bartenders, not necessarily for their drink serving skills, but for their socializing skills, how well they deal with people, how fun they are, etc. You will never understand that. But THAT is what a bar is about, so again, doing a shot with the customer is PART OF THE SERVICE the restaurant not only supports, but most restaurants ENCOURAGE it.
For your "service in the order you get there" crap, hows this, I had a station next to a soda station the other night, but on the opposite side of the restaurant from the bar. I also know the bar is busy and drinks take about 3-5 minutes at LEAST. I got a table sat, took their drink order, 2 lemonades (these come from the BAR), and as I put the 2 lemonades order in, I got another table sat, 2 cokes, so I turned around, about 10 feet away, grabbed the cokes, put them on the table then went to the bar, about 3 minutes after inputting the lemonade order. Technically, I gave the 2nd table drinks first, was that deserving of ZERO tip, or should i have told the 2nd table, "I'll get your cokes in a couple minutes, I'm going to go stand at the bar and do nothing for a couple minutes to wait for lemonades for another table"
Of course that is STUPID, it makes more sense to serve everyone in the fastest, fairest way possible. GOOD servers know how to get the job done properly, quickly, efficiently, and fairly. You have NO clue what you are talking about. |
hacinta
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I just figured why lords places so much emphasis on being served quickly. She starves herself so she can binge, and probably is very hungry. Now how selfish is that, putting her own psychosis before everyone else?
NO caby I am not curious, I pretty much know it is a regular occurrence.
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penelopemarie
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you f****** piece of s***. people have feeling and emotions. the people that cook and serve the garbage you like to ingest are people that care and that have feelings. there are MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOUR STUPID RANCH OR HUNGER PANGS. you really are a selfless b****. lets see when someone close to you dies, lets see you not care because well you are working. no wonder you don't want kids you are just a shallow waste of human air. thank god you don't want children. they would only come to suffer and you will create more human waste.
almost everybody with the exception of you, can understand when emergencies happen. the life of someone is more important than serving someone like you. you would have probably been kicked out by the managemen for for complaining about your food when a tragedy happened. servers have need too, and those needs do not go away when we are on the clock. we are not freaking robots.
so sad that no one really teached you any morals or values. you are an empty shell. what a miserable person you are. too bad your family didn't give you love or understanding. too bad you didn't grow up to be someone better or at least just someone not garbage. |
jenaclaree
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Wow Lords I didn't know how sick you were until you were calling someone a bitch because they mourned with a coworker.
I'm not sure I believe you're real anymore. You might be someone's idea of a sick joke. |
big_momma
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"WHAT ABOUT THE HUNGER PAINS YOU CAUSED THOSE INNOCENT CUSTOMERS WAITING FOR THEIR FOOD, YOU SELFISH BITCH? YOU ARE SELFISH, VERY! I WOULD THINK OF THE CUSTOMERS. I would have a JOB TO DO, NOT TO FREAKIN GIVE HUGS NA CRY. I HOPE YOU GOT STIFFED THAT NIGHT, BECAUSE YOU DESERVED IT."
Lords, you live in freaking AMERICA. If you're so hungry from starving yourself that you feel the need to eat like a rabid dog, you need to do some serious self-examination.
PIG. PUERCO!!!! PUTA!!!! You are so disgusting in your self-rightousness. You are merely a pig bellying up to eat at a trough because you've starved yourself into a frenzy. Normal people don't eat that way, or live that way.
WTF is wrong with you? |
bistroy
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Methinks that we need to call Dr. Phil in on this one. I'm sure that Manny could look up the IP address and get a better location on where she is and get some free help for her. Now that would make some good TV, and you bet your damn ass that I'd watch it.
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teleburst
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"I was just watching a car commercial, and in the commercial they say "The rear door opens to 168 degrees"
I can only imagine Lords, at the dealership, measuring the door, this one opens 166 degrees, I want $5,000 of the car, right now, and an apology because the mechanic who put it together was TOO LAZY to make sure we get our extra 2 degrees, how is my husband supposed to pleasure me with the baseball bat now, huh?"
Actually, she'd ask for a discount because the thermometer only read 78 degrees when she checked the open door. |
dtugg
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You really are one psycho bitch. I bet that every single person that knows you hates you. You are that bitch, I fuckin' guarentee it. I bet your husband even hates you but puts up with your crap because he is such a loser that he cannot get any other pussy. I repeat: Nobody loves you.
You are the only person in the world that would compare a server making somebody wait a couple extra minutes for food/drinks to a doctor letting somebody die. I can tell you that nobody else in the world thinks like you do; nobody thinks that eating out in crappy chain restaurants are life and death. Honestly, I really do not care how long your food/drinks takes except for how it effects my tips. And really, I find that people like me are in general better servers (as long as we are efficient as well as apathetic) because we don't get stressed out because of the smallest things (or in my case nothing at work stresses me out at all) or freak out if we get triple sat.
Anway, you fuckin' bitch, die. |
jenaclaree
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Lords,
If it was your husband who got killed you wouldn't want anybody to comfort you because it might disturb work? That's ridiculous.
I could just see you in a restaurant when this happens complaining because your burger is taking too long. You'd gett your a@@ kicked! |
rev_rund
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Lords, here is the problem with your whole theory -
~Their job is to sell the products of the bar. The bartender only thought of his tip, his stomach, and playing around instead of *****SELLING THE PRODUCTS****! If he wants an *ACT*, go to a strip club is my recommendation.~
You have admitted that you don't sit at the bar frequently. Someone buying a drink for the bartender is most likely a regular customer. If the goal is *****SELLLING THE PRODUCTS****** and you buy 2-3 white russians a month, and the shot buying customer buy 5-6 beers and shots a day, why would the bartender risk lossing the regular customer for you? If that guy says "do this shot with me or I'm leaving" than the bartender would be an idiot for passing up the chance to *****SELL HIM PRODUCTS****** just to get you one drink. And since when did you get to be the final judge on what a bartender's job should be? What makes you so god dam special that you decide whether a bartender should serve the customers one way or another. Not only are you a hypocrite you are the most self centered egotistical piece of crap in this country. You may not be fat but you couldn't fit your ego in the doors of a bar if it were built in an old aircraft hanger. |
rev_rund
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Loads-
I'm sorry I didn't read your whole post. Don't respond to me. Whatever you want to think is okay. If you believe people are selfish for not stuffing cheese fries in your bulimac face, because they are with a mourning co-worker than I do not want to hear anything you could say to me. You are sick and twisted. I hope in your time of need someone shows you the compassion you have denied to everyone else for your whole miserable life. I don't think I have ever come across someone who made me want to believe in the concept of Hell like you do. |
vozveratu
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You have to punish the person in SOME WAY in order for the situation to NEVER, EVER, EVER, HAPPEN AGAIN.
Really? Tipping lower is punishment? How about the way the server felt forgetting the app? Wasn't that punishment enough? The server did everything they needed to do to solve the problem that the server did. Apologized, manager involvement, discount on the bill and you still feel the need to punish the server.
Need to get MR T in your area for the new show, "I Pity the Fool" because you are, no doubt, a fool. |
rev_rund
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~Workers shouldn't stop everything they are doing and make INNOCENT CUSTOMERS WAIT. WHERE DO YOU GET OFF STOPPING YOUR WORK?~
Just some thoughts
Does this make the City of New Orleans Selfish for stopping work last year to search for loved ones and help save people from rooftops? If all the servers in the city didn't go to work because they were manning Red Cross tents were they selfish?
How about the servers at the Lexington airport earlier this year when that plane didn't clear the trees? If a server had ***STOPPED WORKING*** to run across the tarmac and pull the co-pilot to safety would that be selfish?
And to think of all those ***MEAN SPIRITED SELFISH RUDE ONLY THINKING OF THEMSELVES******* People in New York who stopped working for weeks to dig through the rubble. I recently heard a story that many of these people are now afflicted with severe asthma and other lung diseases caused by inhaling microscopic building particles. Serves them right- those selfish bastards, only thinking of other peoples lives instead of their jobs. Lords I have never said this and meant it but I genuinely hope some horrible tradgey befalls you so that you can see what it is to truly need other people. |
tricky
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Lords, a sit-down restaurant is not a retail store. It is not a stand at the counter restaurant. It isn't.
You can rant and rave however long you want, but that doesn't change what it is.
And for the record, you have no clue what immoral means. |
hacinta
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She is a disgusting human being. No compassion, no empathy, not one ounce of consideration is in her ugly body. I wish we could all see the day she is in need of a hug or some kindness from another. Because that day will come and we all know it.
Formerly Jammie
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coorslite
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To be honest... concept unknown to lords. I really have tried to respond to it. But everytime I try to I just want to throw up. Thank you all that work in the restaurant business, have worked in it, and are normal human beings. It's reply to me was totally beyond evil. I'm sorry I even tried to explain that we are human beings with feelings, no that was not an apology to lords! It was an apology to all of you that had to read what evilness really is. Thank you all for understanding and lords I give up. You have finally hit rock bottom. I hope that you get everything you deserve out of life. There is absolutely no getting threw to you. You are not human. I'm sitting here waiting for my friend who's fiancee died to come home from work now. I'm the mother he never had. When he had been left with out the love of his life he turned to his family and we turned to him. You will never understand that it's not food but love that makes the world go around the sun. He's not a blood relation... He's a man that is part of my heart and others. In the restaurant business we are a family. That kind of love and bond you will never understand because it is about compassion and not about ranch and .04 cent over charge. That is why you will always find fault in everything.
For some reason you will never understand... The entire restaurant understood that she had just been announced doa. Because it was told to them and most of them knew him or her... and everyone that worked there was hurting beyond words. We saw her every day. Just like our customers did. It really didn't matter to them that they were on auto pilot. They understood. We found out while we were at work. That just doesn't go away. Being humans there was hugs kisses I love yous and tears. You are not human. You are everything I hate. That's a strong word but ignorant is the worst. You don't listen You don't care You are only concerned about you and you SUCK the life out of everyone on this board. You have no heart. You have no sense of what is right or wrong. It's all about you lords and well........ I really don't care. After your response I don't care if you live or die because to me you are already dead. (No not a threat... you have a dead heart!) Since you have never watched American Pie or been to band camp... how about All in the family????? You are a meathead... dead from the neck up! Go away.
Sorry.......... (no not to you lords.) to the rest of you. I still want to vomit because of her response and I have only read about half of it. |
rev_rund
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~WHAT ABOUT THE HUNGER PAINS YOU CAUSED THOSE INNOCENT CUSTOMERS WAITING FOR THEIR FOOD, YOU SELFISH BITCH? YOU ARE SELFISH, VERY! I WOULD THINK OF THE CUSTOMERS. I would have a JOB TO DO, NOT TO FREAKIN GIVE HUGS NA CRY. I HOPE YOU GOT STIFFED THAT NIGHT, BECAUSE YOU DESERVED IT.~
I just want to add one more thing to this filth. If there is a God, and that God deems for tradgedy to strike my family while I am at work, I pray that Lords is there. I pray that Lords is there and has the courage to stand up and recite this filth to me when I explain why her service is slow. I want her to do it because I will beat her into a coma, I will shove ramikins of ranch so far down her throat her a** will become the new "Hidden Valley". I will release every pent up ounce of Server/Bartender frustration on her and I when I go before the jury I will use this website as my only defense. And I believe no jury in America would convict me based on her spewings here. |
penelopemarie
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...AND OF COURSE SHE NOW HAS NOTHING TO SAY...i think she won't answer and she won't appear for a while. oh well good riddance...i can picture her alone as a kid with no friends and one of these weird families that are either to strict or are just never home. maybe the mom was always don't eat that you'll get fat and disgusting. too bad they don't realize they created an all new disgusting and worthless human being. |
vozveratu
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I will shove ramikins of ranch so far down her throat her a** will become the new "Hidden Valley".
BUAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* BUHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh, that was too funny! |
hacinta
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I bet her mom made her cloths.
Formerly Jammie
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hacinta
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Oh, when she wasnt too busy turning tricks for drinks. remember the lonely guy??? Hard to run a sewing machine with your ankles around your ears, ******AND YOU KNOW IT*********
Formerly Jammie
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lords_of_acid
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vitalryan
"For one, the act of BUYING the shot FOR the bartender to take a shot with the customer is PART OF THE SERVICE. PERIOD. Why is that so hard to understand?"
The "BUYING" IS PART OF THE SERVICE, I AGREE, it's the act of ***INGESTING THAT SHOT*** THAT'S ******NOT****** A SERVICE OF SELLING A PRODUCT. WHO SAYS THE BARTENDER HAS TO ACTUALLY DRINK THE SHOT OR TAKE IT AT THAT EXACT, EXACT, MOMENT? NO ONE DOES! THAT'S THE BARTENDER'S DECISION TO INGEST THAT SHOT. DON'T YOU GET I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ACT OF "SELLING", I AM TALKING ABOUT THAT ACT OF INGESTING IT INTO THE BARTENDER'S BODY. THAT PART IS NOT SERVICE. THAT IS AN ACT, WHICH AN ACT THAT IS PAID FOR IS EITHER FROM A STRIPPER OR A PROSTITUTE, NOT CUSTOMER SERVICE IN A BAR OR RESTAURANT THAT HAS A BAR.
"A bartender taking an extra 10 seconds to do a shot is so stupid."
NO, it's NOT! WHY THE HELL SHOULD THE NEXT CUSTOMER, let's say Joe Smoe, WAIT LONGER for the bartender to think of himself and the tip ONLY and ONLY think of the customer's feelings that wants the bartender to "PLAY AROUND" with him, when the bartender is supposed to be ****SELLING PRODUCTS**** NOT INGESTING THEM? The bartender is bought a shot by the customer, but that DOESN'T MEAN that bartender has to be DISRESPECTFUL to his other customers, which in this case, is Joe Smoe. Joe Smoe should be able to order 10 or so seconds earlier, because the bartender is supposed to be "SELLING", NOT INGESTING the products sold. His job is to "SELL", NOT TO INGEST.
"The bartender would rather give BETTER SERVICE by socializing and taking shots with customers than deal with trash like you."
It's his LOSS of the income he could have had from BOTH of us.
"Doing a shot with the customer is PART OF THE SERVICE."
NO IT IS NOT! Doing the shot is a "CHOICE", NOT A REQUIREMENT. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ***SELLING***, NOT TAKING SHOTS ON THE JOB. WHO EVER HEARD OF THAT DRINKING ON THE JOB WAS A GOOD IDEA? Some people could get FIRED for drinking on the job.
"I'm going to go stand at the bar and do nothing for a couple minutes to wait for lemonades for another table."
WHY couldn’t YOU go get the lemonades yourself? At Chili's, they have another dispenser for the to-go area that servers can get drinks from. I don't expect you to just stand there, I'll agree with that, unless you can get it yourself.
"Now how selfish is that, putting her own psychosis before everyone else?"
I WAIT MY TURN just like EVERYONE ELSE. The bartender can WAIT to pour the shot that the customer bought him and WAIT to drink it as well. There's NO RULE that he *HAS TO DO IT RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT*. He SHOULDN'T out of RESPECT of the customers that are buying things. He should be ringing up SALES, NOT pouring and ingesting his own shot. THAT was selfish of HIM to do. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THAT? HE WASN'T THINKING OF CUSTOMERS THAT WERE WAITING TO BUY SOMETHING.
penelopemarie
"So sad that no one really teached you any morals or values."
If you decided to have intercourse before marriage or you aren't married and had it, ***YOU*** are the one without any MORALS. Especially if you LIVED with someone without being married. What kind of values are those? In other words, LOOK IN THE MIRROR, before you tell someone about “MORALS.”
“The life of someone is more important than serving someone like you.”
Stopping working for the cook doesn’t help the starving customers. YOU ARE ONLY THINKING OF THE COOK’S FIANCÉE and NOT NONE OF THE CUSTOMERS. What a SELFISH WAY TO BE, NOT THINKING OF COORSLITE’S JOB.
jenaclaree
“Wow Lords I didn't know how sick you were until you were calling someone a bitch because they mourned with a coworker.
Because she STOPPED her job to hug and console the cook, when she should have been NOT DELAYING PEOPLE’S FOOD instead for a whole 20 minutes. That’s just WRONG. The cook should have went home. If that was the only cook there, they should have CLOSED the restaurant out of COMMON DECENCY, instead of STOPPING EVERYTHING for this cook. Talk about selfish, all these workers were ONLY concerned with the cook instead of their customers.
“Lords,
If it was your husband who got killed you wouldn't want anybody to comfort you because it might disturb work? That's ridiculous.”
It’s not, because I would clock out and go home. I’d have my husband pick me up, because I would be crying too much to drive. I wouldn’t expect people to take 20 minutes to hug me and stop their work for me, THAT’S WHAT’S RIDICULOUS. If they are at their lunch time or their break, THAT is when it would be appropriate to do that.
rev_rund
“Why would the bartender risk lossing the regular customer for you?”
He wouldn’t, because the bartender would still SELL the shot to the customer for himself, but take the shot at a time that there are no new orders. So he wouldn’t LOSE the customer, because the customer would still get to have a shot with the bartender, just at a later time, instead of delaying customers that are actually ORDERING products just to gulp a shot.
“If that guy says "do this shot with me or I'm leaving" than the bartender would be an idiot for passing up the chance to *****SELL HIM PRODUCTS****** just to get you one drink.”
You’re WRONG. My white russian is at LEAST $4 and the shot is a couple of bucks at the most. So he’d be passing up selling me a HIGHER priced item over the customer that’s demanding. If the customer says that, well I wouldn’t want that customer’s business in the first place to be that demanding. The bartender isn’t a slave, you know. If the bartender can sell me a white russian, since the customer would have already given the money for the shot, it’s PAID, so the bartender would be smart not to lose a customer(me) by not making me wait for him to ingest the shot. The shot can WAIT. The customer SHOULDN’T HAVE TO WAIT TO ORDER TO INGEST A FLUID. THAT’S SELFISH AND ONLY THINKING OF THE TIP AND HIS STOMACH. If the customer wants to play around, he could do it on his OWN TIME when the bartender isn’t actually “SERVING” people products of the store. The bartender would be serving HIMSELF the shot. NO ONE IS MAKING HIM INGEST IT RIGHT AT THAT EXACT MOMENT.
“And since when did you get to be the final judge on what a bartender's job should be?”
WHO are you to act as if the bartender should IGNORE SALES to ingest a fluid? THAT’S WRONG. Just as if I would drink some coke the customer bought me at the donut shop with a customer for 10 seconds and ignore someone waiting to order their burgers. SAME DIFFERENCE! I would NEVER put ***MY OWN*** WANTS BEFORE A CUSTOMER THAT WANTS TO ORDER, NEVER! You KNOW that’s MORALLY WRONG as well as just plain SELFISH!
“What makes you so god dam special that you decide whether a bartender should serve the customers one way or another.”
Customer service is just that, CUSTOMER SERVICE. It’s NOT ***DRINKING ON THE JOB***! CUSTOMER SERVICE IS MAKING AND RINGING UP ********PRODUCTS******* FOR THE CUSTOMERS, NOT INGESTING SOME OF THOSE PRODUCTS. If they the customer wants the bartender to do a shot with him, they need to go to a strip club or some place that “ACTS” are a part of the service. At businesses where you order from a counter or bar, “ACTS” DON’T PLAY INTO SERVICE. When you go to McDonald’s, do you see the cashier start eating and drinking instead of SERVING the customers? I KNOW I FOR SURE DON’T! SERVING THE PRODUCTS IS WHAT THE WORKER SHOULD BE DOING, NOT DRINKING WHEN THERE ARE CUSTOMERS WAITING TO ORDER. What make you so damn special that you think your shot that you would buy a bartender should be TAKEN BY THE BARTENDER before a customer that wants to order something? That’s PLAYTIME to drink on the job. Work is making the drinks, ringing up the customer, etc. Taking a shot is PLAYTIME, NOT WORK! HOW CAN YOU CALL TAKING A SHOT WORK?
“Only are you a hypocrite you are the most self centered egotistical piece of crap in this country.”
HOW would I be a hypocrite? Second of all, ***YOU*** are self-centered that you think that your shot should come before someone waiting to order drinks. You think that the bartender should make someone else WAIT, so you can watch an “ACT” of taking a shot together. THAT’S SELFISH, HOGGING THE BARTENDER ALL TO YOURSELF FOR THOSE 10 seconds or more. YOU CAN’T SEE THAT YOU ARE “HOGGING” THE BARTENDER FROM HAVING ANY OTHER ORDERS TO COME IN? I DON’T KEEP BARTENDERS FROM DOING THEIR JOB. If they have a customer to serve, I stop talking to them. I am NOT “SELF-CENTERED”, but I bet you would keep on talking if you knew someone was ready to order.
“Your bulimac face.”
I have NEVER induced vomiting before, YOU IDIOT! I eat a low calorie day. Sometimes it’s 2 days I don’t eat much. I DON’T THROW UP. That is just disgusting.
“Does this make the City of New Orleans Selfish for stopping work last year to search for loved ones and help save people from rooftops.”
There’s a HUGE DIFFERENCE in this. One, the workers weren’t ON THE CLOCK, meaning they didn’t have regular work those days. Two, MANY MORE PEOPLE were dying, NOT just one. Three, the city as a whole was almost drowning, so they were trying to fix that, meaning they were doing SOME WORK. They were doing WORK when they went to rescue people. They didn’t just SIT AND CRY OR JUST HUG, THEY WENT OUT THERE AND DID A LOT, A LOT, OF (DRUMROLL PLEASE) *************WORK*************. Do you honestly think that wasn’t a LOT of hard WORK those people did? If you think it wasn’t, go do it and see HOW MUCH WORK IT REALLY IS. Coorslite and co-workers were just doing NOTHING but crying, talking, and hugging, which IS ****NOT**** WORK!
“If all the servers in the city didn't go to work because they were manning Red Cross tents were they selfish?”
Actually, that’s NOT WHY! THERE WERE NO RESTAURANTS OPEN IN THAT AREA. I KNOW, when we went back for labor day, because we are in Kenner, they had a few sparse places like Papa John’s open, but NO SIT-DOWN restaurants and fast food had only DRIVE-THRU open. So YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. They weren’t being selfish, they didn’t have a job to go back to. There were restaurants that were FLOODED. Food spoiled and it was just UNSAFE to go to a restaurant, much less work there. THAT IS WHY THEY DIDN’T WORK AS SERVERS, BUT THEY DID WORK, INSTEAD OF SITTING ON THEIR ASSES HUGGING AND CRYING. I even got a brief office job when I was in Houston during that time.
“How about the servers at the Lexington airport earlier this year when that plane didn't clear the trees? If a server had ***STOPPED WORKING*** to run across the tarmac and pull the co-pilot to safety would that be selfish?”
I don’t know what the HELL you are talking about. I don’t watch the news very often.
“People in New York who stopped working for weeks to dig through the rubble.”
That’s the point, that they were *WORKING* on SOMETHING INSTEAD OF HUGGING AND CRYING ABOUT IT, THEY WERE ****DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT******! Don’t you get that crying and hugging ISN'T CONSIDERED WORK? It's NOT WORK TO HUG OR CRY, SORRY, BUT IT'S NOT!
dtugg
“I can tell you that nobody else in the world thinks like you do.”
My husband agrees with me about service issues for the most part and my mom does too. Even my friends do too.
vozveratu
“How about the way the server felt forgetting the app? Wasn't that punishment enough?”
NO, because that’s NOT punishment. If you get paid the full amount, you’ll NEVER LEARN. That’s NOT PUNISHMENT ENOUGH. There’s NO WAY I want to wait a half an hour again for an appetizer. I bet he learned MUCH MORE with the 16% tip than if I would have given him 20% or more. I can’t believe you think someone will learn without punishment. If he can get a great tip that time, he won’t care the next time or to the next customers he serves. |
vitalryan
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I only had a chance to skim that "book" as usual. For one, a "shot" is typically quite expensive, normally it's a higher end liquor, and almost ALWAYS shots cost more than $4.
Also, you didn't really answer my scenario about the lemonades, there WAS a point to that, for one, I don't work at chili's, and NO, I can NOT get the lemonades myself. Now think of this, if you were in my section, YOU would have assumed I could get them myself, and tipped me less for serving the other tables drinks first, thinking I was being lazy because their drinks were closer.
Of course, you were WRONG. And thats the point, it made more sense to get the drinks for the 2nd table first, since I had to wait to get bar drinks anyways. Thats the point Lords, you do NOT have any idea how it works.
Also, taking a shot with the customer IS part of the service, bar OWNERS, restaurant MANAGERS and owners all encourage this behavior, they want the interaction. AND to top that off, NORMAL, DECENT human beings will be happy to wait the extra 10 seconds, as they can clearly see the bartender SERVING another guest. 99.9% of people are not bothered by it, only YOU, lords.
I noticed your little "it's the ACT of ingesting it is only at strip clubs" crap. As we've told you already, it's not YOUR duty to decide what their job actually is. And you cannot possibly win this argument. Bar owners and managers ENCOURAGE this, they are OK with it. We are telling you that this IS part of the job, "talking with the customers" "doing shots with them" etc... all of that is PART of the JOB of being a bartender, whether you like it or not. Bar owners and managers typically hire bartenders very specifically for those skills.
You are WRONG. Again, only the manager or owner can decide what the job entails, you have absolutely NO say in that. |
coorslite
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WHAT ABOUT THE HUNGER PAINS YOU CAUSED THOSE INNOCENT CUSTOMERS WAITING FOR THEIR FOOD, YOU SELFISH BITCH? YOU ARE SELFISH, VERY! I WOULD THINK OF THE CUSTOMERS. I would have a JOB TO DO, NOT TO FREAKIN GIVE HUGS NA CRY. I HOPE YOU GOT STIFFED THAT NIGHT, BECAUSE YOU DESERVED IT.
Not only did I not get stiffed, I was working carside that night... on my night off... when we got the call from our friend about his fiancee I answered the phone. He was not in the building at the time. He had just identified the body. I made almost $200 that night. Why because I still did my job but also because hunger pains are not the same as the heart break of losing a great friend. You wouldn't understand this concept because as evil as you are friends are not in your life. There is no way to explain to you that life is not all about ranch dressing and how much you can scam and steal from restaurants. People that work itb know what it's like you don't. So...... again do you think you are intelligent? Because if you are please explain this response....
“Lords,
If it was your husband who got killed you wouldn't want anybody to comfort you because it might disturb work? That's ridiculous.”
It’s not, because I would clock out and go home. I’d have my husband pick me up, because I would be crying too much to drive. I wouldn’t expect people to take 20 minutes to hug me and stop their work for me, THAT’S WHAT’S RIDICULOUS. If they are at their lunch time or their break, THAT is when it would be appropriate to do that.
Now how could he do that if he was dead? Should the entire restaurant customers that loved this girl too called her since she was dead and had her take us home? U CUnnnnnnt! Grow up and when you do don't breed!
Kettle black here. Look in the mirror. I sure did. And guess what I will sleep well tonight. Hope you choke on that mozz stick! Or your next server is "accidentally" putting some eye drops in when the expo says run this to lords... crippling shhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiitttttttttttttssssssss coming on! yOU HAVE earned it..... cup of aides has already been served at Chilis |
tipqueen
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Lords reply:"I don’t know what the HELL you are talking about. I don’t watch the news very often."
Everyone else replies together: "Another admission of its STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE"
Tipqueen replies: Go Hang yourself Lords! |
tipqueen
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“Lords,
If it was your husband who got killed you wouldn't want anybody to comfort you because it might disturb work? That's ridiculous.”
It’s not, because I would clock out and go home. I’d have my husband pick me up, because I would be crying too much to drive. I wouldn’t expect people to take 20 minutes to hug me and stop their work for me, THAT’S WHAT’S RIDICULOUS. If they are at their lunch time or their break, THAT is when it would be appropriate to do that.
NOT IF IT WAS HE WHO WAS DEAD!!!!! IGNORANT ONE!!!
You are the coldest person ever, may you ROT in hell!! |
lords_of_acid
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coorslite and tipqueen
"Now how could he do that if he was dead?"
I was thinking about if *ANYONE* close to me died like one or both of my parents. I would take a CAB if that happen and end up picking my car up later or have someone else drive it home. I know it says "My husband" if he would die, but I am talking about ANYONE that would be close to me that would die, would be just as hard. I would NOT make my co-workers STOP WORKING for me. That is INSANE and RIDICULOUS. It is also VERY SELFISH of me if I was to think they would.
vitalryan
"Also, you didn't really answer my scenario about the lemonades."
Yes I did. READ NEXT TIME: "I don't expect you to just stand there, I'll agree with that, unless you can get it yourself."
"Thats the point Lords, you do NOT have any idea how it works."
I saw how Chili's works as well as a mexican chain called "Seranos Salsa company" where they have 2 places the servers can get soft drinks at. One time, a server at Seranos got us a refill within less than a minute, because she got it HERSELF. Maybe the place doesn't work the same that you work at, but I can see that they have a dispenser by the take-out area at Chili's that servers can go get the soft drinks at.
"Also, taking a shot with the customer IS part of the service, bar OWNERS, restaurant MANAGERS and owners all encourage this behavior, they want the interaction."
That DOESN'T mean that it's MORALLY RIGHT to DELAY someone from ordering something to ingest something. As I said before, don't you think it's rude at the donut shop if I was to drink a coke that someone bought for me about 10 seconds worth instead of going to get the person at the counter that is ready to order? That's RUDE to do to ANY customer and just because it's "ALCOHOL", DOESN'T make it ANY DIFFERENT than if I did the SAME THING(which is IGNORING A CUSTOMER) to serve **MYSELF***, which is only caring about me and the customer that wants me to drink the drink. I am NOT "SELLING" anything at that moment that I am drinking the coke, but I may lose a customer that might walk out for it. It's NO DIFFERENT than if I did that to a customer at the donut shop. It's VERY, VERY, RUDE to delay someone from ordering to drink something(unless the person is choking or coughing).
"As we've told you already, it's not YOUR duty to decide what their job actually is."
It's NOT the "BARTENDER'S DUTY" to IGNORE customers when they want to order, the EXACT MOMENT they want to order to DRINK and CHAT. I KNOW WHAT CUSTOMER SERVICE SHOULD BE LIKE. A bar is JUST like a counter, except the counter area is called a bar. NO DIFFERENCE in the way you fix and ring up items. It's just as rude for me to ignore a customer that wants to order as it is for a bartender to do that.
"We are telling you that this IS part of the job, "talking with the customers" "doing shots with them" etc... all of that is PART of the JOB of being a bartender, whether you like it or not."
NO IT'S NOT! The bartender is DECIDING to make it a part of the job. If they had ANY ***CONSIDERATION**** for customer's TIME, they would do the shot when there were NO orders coming in, PERIOD! THAT IS WHAT RESPECT IS ALL ABOUT! DISRESPECT IS DRINKING INSTEAD OF FIXING AND RINGING UP AN ORDER THAT SOMEONE WANTS, WHICH IS IGNORING THE CUSTOMER FOR THE BARTENDER'S SELFISHNESS.
"You are WRONG. Again, only the manager or owner can decide what the job entails, you have absolutely NO say in that."
YOU don't have any say in that. The bar owner wants to *SELL* and in order to do that, he doesn't want people to leave, because the bartender is playing around instead of "SERVING" people. YOU ARE REALLY STUPID! Customer service is to fix and ring up PRODUCTS of the bar, NOT drinking shots and talking. Drinking and chit-chatting is PLAYTIME. YOU KNOW THAT'S THE TRUTH! |
tipqueen
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Such a loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser.... shall I go on? loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser
etc etc etc
(THAT is not what was said, again you TWISTED the context to go along with YOUR TWISTED "thoughts and expectations".... IDIOT!!!! |
vozveratu
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I bet he learned MUCH MORE with the 16% tip than if I would have given him 20% or more. I can’t believe you think someone will learn without punishment. If he can get a great tip that time, he won’t care the next time or to the next customers he serves.
Actually Lords, not going to lie, he probably was happy with that tip. I know I would. I would have tipped 20%, but I'll tell you why:
Rewarding him for handling the problem he caused. We all make mistakes and it's how the server handles mistakes. Does the server get a manager? Does the server suggest a discount? Does the server apologize and show that it was an honest mistake? If yes to all those questions, why not reward the server instead of punishing.
But you didn't really punish. Probably was happy to get that. |
rev_rund
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~NO IT'S NOT! The bartender is DECIDING to make it a part of the job. If they had ANY ***CONSIDERATION**** for customer's TIME, they would do the shot when there were NO orders coming in, PERIOD!~
Lords you inbred gator screwing pig, close that hillbilly cum deposit box you call a mouth and listen. As a bartender and part owner of a bar I can tell you that doing the shot is not a choice of the bartender. Our policy is that a customer is served up until they don't want to be served anymore Got It! I don't care if there are 10 people standing around if a customer buys me or an employee a shot it is not the bartenders choice it is the customers. You don't even know how to be a decent human being how could you possibly know anything about being decent at customer service. And while I'm on the subject a White Russian COSTS THE SAME AS A SHOT!!!! Where on earth do you drink that a shot of Jack Daniels costs $2???? You said your White Russian costs a few dollars more than a shot so I want to see you prove that a Call or Premium liquor costs less than $4.
And while we're at it why don't you answer the question as it was posted you illiterate swamp thing. I said that the shot buying customer is a regular who spends hundreds of dollars a month in the bar. You yourself say that you only have a couple of drinks a month. So why would I chase the shot buying customer out just to get you a drink? I would be sacrificing hundreds of dollars for $4. That doesn't sound like good business to me. |
penelopemarie
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penelopemarie
"So sad that no one really teached you any morals or values."
If you decided to have intercourse before marriage or you aren't married and had it, ***YOU*** are the one without any MORALS. Especially if you LIVED with someone without being married. What kind of values are those? In other words, LOOK IN THE MIRROR, before you tell someone about “MORALS.”
um those are religious values, i don't really abide by those much, except the no killing and no stealing part. being a virgin will not make me a better person, that doesn't mean i have no values or morals. virginity is a last century deal something given to women not to men. morals and values go to the same female and male. i can't believe in something that was created by man to keep women on a lower standard than men.
i don't believe in marriage so how the fact of not believing in marriage make me not have values or morals. i live happily with the father of my child. oh yes we had her out of wedlock and we are great and lovable parents. don't really think you can be punished for bringing a child into this world and raising it to be a good person. OBVIOUSLY i will never teach her the garbage that someone teached you.
that was the only value they taught you, keep your legs closed till you get married. what year did you live the 1800 hundreds. or was it that no one was interested in opening them up for you. tsk tsk i wonder why. i keep believing you have an arranged marriage. i think you came from those weird cults we see in tv, people living in trailers, and wearing clothes of the last century. that is why your husband believes the same thing as you (if he does or or he does it in front of you and has waaaaay much fun with real women behind your back), and your friends supposedly agree with you because they came from the weird a** place you came from.
it is sad really that you don't expect any of your co workers to hug you in the event of a tragedy. it is obvious they won't want to comfort you either because you are a cold uncaring and selfish person. that is what normal people do comfort each other in the event of a tragedy, we can't really expect a callus person like yourself that was probably never hugged in her life to understand common sense and humanity.
when someone buys someone a drink they expect to have the person drink the drink right there at that moment. that is how the bar scenario works. oh but for you it is MORALLY WRONG. so this is where you morals lie on how to service you first and on being a virgin. WOW...
...and bulimia has two parts eating massives amount of food and throwing it up. you don't have to throw up to have bulimia there are other ways to get rid of the massive amount of food you just ingested, like massive amount of excersise, laxatives, or lowering your calorie intake (then you turn into anorexic). |
caby_kay
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Because she STOPPED her job to hug and console the cook, when she should have been NOT DELAYING PEOPLE’S FOOD instead for a whole 20 minutes. That’s just WRONG. The cook should have went home. If that was the only cook there, they should have CLOSED the restaurant out of COMMON DECENCY, instead of STOPPING EVERYTHING for this cook. Talk about selfish, all these workers were ONLY concerned with the cook instead of their customers.
wow! you really are a heartless selfish cunt! |
vitalryan
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Loads,
Do you have a clue how bars work? They don't magically fill up. We had a bartender that worked thursday nights, the bar would be packed when he was there, TONS of regulars. These people only came thursdays.
Bars are a social experience, it's a large, open area where everyone kind of sits together and has a good time. Bar OWNERS absolutely HIRE, and encourage bartenders to interact with the customers, whether it's taking shots, or discussing personal issues, whatever. The point is, I've seen them put someone behind the bar simply because they wanted another female instead of 2 males. It makes a BIG difference.
You keep talking about selling, but ringing in the sale is the LAST and EASIEST part of making the sale, getting a crowd to sell to is the hard part. The overall experience of a bar brings in more people, THAT is why doing a shot with a customer who requests it is PART of the SERVICE to that customer, as well as providing a good time to everyone else there, insuring they COME BACK more often. You have no idea how sales works, you data monkey. Again, doing that shot is part of the SELLING and encourages FUTURE SALES... if the bartender doesn't do the shot with the customer, customer may not have fun, may not come back, and if they do, not buy MORE SHOTS, thus MORE sales. Data chump.
The one in a MILLION people that are like you, and by your own words, think it's a freaking donut shop counter, just don't get it, they don't care about your business anyways, they don't care if you come back. You aren't fun, you don't understand the "bar" as a customer, and you are a total bitch. You will NEVER win that argument. It's absolutely NOT morally wrong to take that shot, it morally RIGHT to provide that fun atmosphere and service to the guest asking to do a shot with the bartender, when they finish, its then your turn to order a drink. Gasp, if the guy next to you orders the same thing, he may even make them both at the same time!!! Or maybe even hand a beer to the guy who ordered AFTER you because your drink takes a couple minutes to make. THAT is how a bar works, you will NEVER understand it. But you will also never win, the ONLY person who determines how it works is the owners and managers, and I'm telling you EXACTLY how they want it done. |
coorslite
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Hey cuntflap...
That’s the point, that they were *WORKING* on SOMETHING INSTEAD OF HUGGING AND CRYING ABOUT IT, THEY WERE ****DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT******! Don’t you get that crying and hugging ISN'T CONSIDERED WORK? It's NOT WORK TO HUG OR CRY, SORRY, BUT IT'S NOT!
If you think for one freaking minute that there wasn't tears, hugs, kisses, while they were digging threw the rubble and finding bodies everywhere you are so sadly mistaken.
This coworkers fiancee was 24 years old. You of course wouldn't understand this because you are the most hated person I have ever run into. But she was loved and to see our coworker hurt... I know this is going to really go over your head but CUSTOMERS were crying also. Our coworker was NOT at work. We were mourning our loss. You have no idea what human compassion is so again... YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! We on this board have friends at work, friends outside of work, we don't live to eat.
Go play in traffic with a sharp knife! |
big_momma
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Lords, the weirdest thing about you is the way you post about hungry and thirsty customers, as if they've been on a desert island for weeks and they arrive at the restaurant dying to INGEST things.
Normal people arrive at a restaurant and take things as they come. 99.999% of the world's people don't count seconds that they wait for food or a drink.
Did you just learn the word ingest? Did you just learn the word irrlevant? You couldn't pass nursing school after three tries so being an attorney is pretty much outside your grasp, don't you think?
You've been proven to be a moron here many times over and the only person that doesn't know you're a moron is you, your mother and maybe your poor husband (who is of questionable intelligence, obviously). You don't have any friends AND YOU KNOW IT. lol Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
But your recent threads really do take the cake. You are so needy of attention and your ever loving R-E-S-P-E-C-T that you discount the death of a person, and put yourself in front of that death in the level of importance.
Again, this is the behavior of a farm animal. It's survival of the fittest for sure. IN A BARNYARD.
It's very obvious that you were brought up poorly. Lots of children are brought up poorly in this world, but most of them learn better as they mature and they learn to act as responsible, respectful people in society. You refuse to learn how to be a better person and cling to your rhetoric (look it up) and actually strive to remain trashy and plebian. It's like you really have to hold onto the only thing you know, which is behaving like poor trailer trash.
Anything for a buck, a few cents, for free food, for "getting over" on something or somebody. I'll bet that you go to bed at night counting the cents you saved on a given day, and the calories you saved, just waiting for the day that you can eat again and scam a restaurant out of free food.
What a miserable existence you live. That is all your miserable life consists of and you're actually proud of it.
And all of your talk about morals is a joke. You had no compunction (look it up) about giving blow jobs while dating but you saved that miserable Hidden Valley in your body for marriage? Do you think that was admirable, while you treat human being around you like trash on a daily basis?
For all of you trying to sound so smart, you've had four jobs in the past year. What's up with that? I know that there are legal words when you enter claim summaries and you think you're getting all smart now, but INGEST AND IRRELEVANT AND EXCEPTION are only new words to you, not the rest of the world.
If you can't pull your head out of your ass, just don't talk out of your ass, please. You don't understand sections in a menu and you rail at Crapplebees management that they can't write a menu? You have less reasoning abilities than most 8 year olds.
Just shut up Lords. You are an idiot. Everyone here know that, everyone within 30 miles of you knows that. Your mother even knows it, which is why she tells you that everyone has a different idea of common sense.
JUST. SHUT. UP. |
coorslite
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INGEST
Cuntflap learned that word when she was asked how many body fluids she had ingested....
Cuntflap also can not answer if she is intelligent. Because she is an "INDIOT"!
Right now Cuntflap is out scamming free food and not tipping. How about this Cuntflap... because you think you are so right and we are wrong, Print your evil spews out and take it to your neighborhood Crapplehell and ask them to tell you why we are wrong and you are right. No free food for you that night!!!!!!!!! |
big_momma
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LOL I forgot somebody used the word ingest here! It's obviously her word of the week.
I'm sure she's in some dive drinking from styrofoam and giving some poor server hell. She's the classy one here ya know.
Did I mention that I work in insurance now? I know exactly what she does for work. I also know the kind of people that we hire to do it and what they get paid.
Small industry, insurance. It wouldn't be hard to find her.
Mwahahahahahaha. |
coorslite
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penelopemarie also used ingest. Cuntflap maybe you should pick another word like COMPASSION and learn the meaning. Until then FUCKOFFCUNTFLAP!
And I'm using Cuntflap from now on because you are offended by Loadsofshit, Loadass, and other names that suit you. So Cuntflap it is! |
big_momma
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She won't get it, she's used to abuse and she actually seems to like it. How else could she post this stupidity over and over? She actually wants the world to become the way she expects it to be and thinks that is she pontificates enough (look it up Lords) the world will change. She's very spechul like that. LOL "Momma, I said it's so, so it's that way, right".
"Yes child, hush, you are spechul, it's the world that is wrong in your pointy little haid. Have some more mayo and ranch with your trash food and rest yourself and maybe you'll wake up in Oz when the wicked witch (or reality) is gone".
I'm going to bed, I'm tired. Reading her crap makes my head hurt. |
coorslite
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We know Cuntflap took the short bus to band camp! |
caby_kay
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i'm just impressed that we can now cuss lord's fat ass out! i don't come in here very often and besides this week, the last time i visited was months ago and you couldn't cuss. now i love the fact that i can call lords a fatass, drippy cuntflap and tell her that i hate her guts and hope that the miserable bitch dies from a heartattack from all of the fat she throws down her throat! |
teleburst
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"As I said before, don't you think it's rude at the donut shop if I was to drink a coke that someone bought for me about 10 seconds worth instead of going to get the person at the counter that is ready to order"?
No.
Actually I'd be amused to see you drain a Coke in 10 seconds. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if I knew it were you. If I didn't, I'd probably just applaud. |
hacinta
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"WHICH AN ACT THAT IS PAID FOR IS EITHER FROM A STRIPPER OR A PROSTITUTE"
or your mom.
"HE WASN'T THINKING OF CUSTOMERS THAT WERE WAITING TO BUY SOMETHING".
He was thinking of the customer that he was already in the process of serving.
"It’s not, because I would clock out and go home. I’d have my husband pick me up, because I would be crying too much to drive."
Your dead husband? This I want to see.
"CUSTOMER SERVICE. It’s NOT ***DRINKING ON THE JOB***!"
How do you know what the owner/manager wants his employees to do? They could very well encourage interaction with the guests. You know like ingesting fluids, in your case it would be bodily fluids.
"Even my friends do too"
Now thats the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Friends? Yeah right.
"It's NOT the "BARTENDER'S DUTY" to IGNORE customers when they want to order"
Taking 10 seconds to finish up with a customer does not constitute ignoring.
Formerly Jammie
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teleburst
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""It's NOT the "BARTENDER'S DUTY" to IGNORE customers when they want to order"
Taking 10 seconds to finish up with a customer does not constitute ignoring".
Especially since that guest was THERE FIRST. According to the "Rules According To Lords", the bartender didn't have any other option. They HAD to go "in order". As you point out, the service to the previous guest wasn't over until the entire service was finished and that would be to consume the item that the guest wanted the bartender to consume. |
penelopemarie
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but the service in order only applies when she gets to go first and gets not to wait all of 3.5 seconds for anything in her life. what a fu***** waste of human space.... |
hacinta
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"WHAAAA I want my drink, WHAAAAA!"
Stomping both feet pounding fists on the bar. She probaly has her dead husband driving her around. The mother is in the parking lot giving blow jobs for drinks. Yep thats quite a crew.
Formerly Jammie
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lords_of_acid
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vozveratu
“If yes to all those questions, why not reward the server instead of punishing.”
As I stated before, because it’ll happen again and again to us if we have him again as well as whoever else has him. Do you want to know why it might happen? If he knows he’ll get a great tip anyway, he won’t TRY. There’s got to be SOME INCENTIVE to do better. If your boss says he or she will give you a raise if you do a certain task better, don’t you think you would try harder to get that raise? If you wouldn’t, most would. If you feel your job is on the line if you don’t do a certain task, would you rather risk losing your job or do the task? Most people would just do that task to keep their job. Incentives DO help. I DID REWARD him. I tipped him instead of stiffing him as I would normally do in a situation like that. He did EVERYTHING right. He got a manager, he offered us free food, he apologized profusely, and he even admitted at fault(which some servers will blame the cook), so how could I not give him a decent tip? I don’t think he deserves a 20% tip, because he was hugging and chatting. 20% or more is for servers that bust butt. 20% or more would be for the servers that are into doing their JOB and NOT PLAYING AROUND. There shouldn’t be hugging going on during work. One time at Chili’s last year, I had ordered a white russian while we were dining there and the waitress went to greet another table. While she was there, she put out her hand so guys could kiss it. Image what kind of tip she got. About 5%, somewhere around there. My white russian could have been there faster if she would have went to put that order in as she is supposed to and not waste time flirting with those guys. If you have time to hug, you have time to remember to put in an order. If the waiter would have been super busy and I would have saw he was busting butt, I would have given him 19%. I saw he had time to play, so NO, NO GREAT TIP REWARD.
“But you didn't really punish. Probably was happy to get that.”
Thank you for saying that. That was nice of you. I did punish him to an extent of what I NORMALLY give for great service. I think I did mention, I tipped on the before the discounted amount, not after the discount. So I feel I did the right thing. I don’t regret not giving 20% at all. He was NICE about it and EXTREMELY CARING. It is RARE to have a server that gives a crap about their customers. I just feel that hugging shouldn’t be going on during work. WORK IS WORK and that is what should be going on. That’s WHY mistakes happen a lot of times is because servers are playing around.
rev_rund
“Where on earth do you drink that a shot of Jack Daniels costs $2???”
From years ago when I bought a shot of amaretto or vodka for daiquiri’s. I didn’t buy premium brands. I was fine at that time with taaka vodka.
“Our policy is that a customer is served up until they don't want to be served anymore Got It!”
That’s the point, that you have to serve THEM, but you don’t have to serve YOURSELF THE SHOT, GOT IT?
“So why would I chase the shot buying customer out just to get you a drink?”
NOW YOU ARE BEING VERY PREJUDICED! You are playing favoritism instead of treating each customer as EQUALS. You have the NERVE to tell me this: “You don't even know how to be a decent human being”, when you aren’t treating people as EQUALS. Playing FAVORITES is NOT BEING A DECENT HUMAN BEING. I matter JUST **EQUALLY** AS MUCH AS THAT CUSTOMER, NO MORE, NO LESS. My time is just as important as the customer that wants the bartender to take a shot with him.
“That doesn't sound like good business to me.”
Instead of being as you said “DECENT” human being, you are treating people like they are just dollar signs instead of the actual humans we all are. People have feelings and they should matter. Money ISN’T EVERYTHING. I didn’t go back much after that, because of that disrespect.
penolopemarie
“I can't believe in something that was created by man to keep women on a lower standard than men.”
My husband was a virgin before marriage as well. WHO IN THE WORLD SAID IT HAD TO BE JUST WOMEN?
“What year did you live the 1800 hundreds. or was it that no one was interested in opening them up for you.”
I had quite a bit of offers. I didn’t want to get pregnant. I wanted it to be special, unlike you. I had rathered not have just live together situation. I didn’t want to have sex with a bunch of people and I wanted to have a together forever relationship, which is marriage. I didn’t want to be those type of girls that I saw in high school that had babies. NO WAY DID I WANT THAT WHEN I HAD COLLEGE AHEAD OF ME. I am VERY, VERY GLAD I WAITED. Foreplay is MUCH MORE FUN than intercourse in my opinion.
“When someone buys someone a drink they expect to have the person drink the drink right there at that moment.”
WHO SAYS THEY HAVE TO? IT ISN’T THE LAW OR A RULE. They can still do the shot with the bartender, just AFTER they serve the customer that’s waiting to order out of RESPECT.
vitalryan
“THAT is why doing a shot with a customer who requests it is PART of the SERVICE to that customer.”
It doesn’t mean they have to do that shot RIGHT THEN, at that EXACT MOMENT. The bartender should have some RESPECT for people WAITING TO ORDER instead of putting something into his body.
“Again, doing that shot is part of the SELLING and encourages FUTURE SALES... if the bartender doesn't do the shot with the customer, customer may not have fun, may not come back.”
I am NOT saying don’t do the shot, just do it AFTER the bartender serves the customer that is patiently waiting to order. My point is, DON’T DELAY A CUSTOMER FROM ORDERING TO INGEST SOMETHING out of common decency and respect for people’s time. It’s just as rude for me to continue to drink coke or eat something at the donut shop instead of serving a customer.
“Think it's a freaking donut shop counter.”
Just because the employee is serving “ALCOHOL” DOESN’T MEAN YOU CAN JUST MAKE UP RULES ON HOW TO BE CONSIDERATE. Just like when you are at McDonald’s, you order a soft drink and the next person in line orders after they are finished getting the first person’s drink. You don’t see McDonald’s employee drinking coke instead of serving the customer RIGHT AWAY, DO YOU? You see RESPECT for CUSTOMER’S TIME.
“It's absolutely NOT morally wrong to take that shot.”
You’re RIGHT. It’s MORALLY WRONG to take that shot while a customer is waiting to order. In other words the act of taking the shot isn’t wrong at all. It’s the fact that the bartender put drinking something before serving a customer. THAT IS WHAT’S MORALLY WRONG! Putting ANYTHING in front of a customer’s time is wrong such as bussing a table before putting in an order or chit-chatting about whatever. Anything that makes the customer wait to order for “PERSONAL GAIN”(NOT BUSINESS GAIN, PERSONAL GAIN) is SELFISH AND WRONG. The bartender gained being able to drink the drink and the tip from it which was a (PERSONAL GAIN). He wasn’t concerned about customer’s time that was waiting to order, just his stomach and his tip.
“Service to the guest asking to do a shot with the bartender, when they finish, its then your turn to order a drink.”
NO, it should be my turn RIGHT AFTER the shot is poured for the customer as well as rung up and after the shot would be rung up for the bartender’s shot. He can pour that shot later as well as take the shot when there are no new orders out of consideration for customer’s time. NO CUSTOMER SHOULD EVER, EVER, EVER, have to wait for a bartender to drink something before getting served UNLESS it is to stop coughing. THAT IS WHAT’S WRONG.
“Gasp, if the guy next to you orders the same thing, he may even make them both at the same time!!”
When bartenders do that, that’s DISRESPECT to the first customer. WHY should the first customer wait **ANY** LONGER for the second customer’s order? That’s NOT FAIR OR MORALLY RIGHT and you KNOW IT! An automatic zero tip is what they’ll see if they do that trick.
“Or maybe even hand a beer to the guy who ordered AFTER you because your drink takes a couple minutes to make.”
I’ve had that happen to me quite a number of times and it’s VERY, VERY, VERY INCONSIDERATE. So Joe Schmoe’s time that orders a beer is somehow more important than a person that orders a white russian? That’s NOT RIGHT at ALL. That is VERY RUDE. Jane Doe’s time that orders a white russian is just as important as Joe Schmoe’s time. Definitely a zero tip is what they got when they did that trick. So just because Jane Doe’s white russian takes longer, doesn’t mean she should have to wait 10 more seconds for the bartender to go to get the beer out of the cooler, open the cap, and take 10 more seconds to ring up the item and give change. WHY is Joe Schmoe that orders the beer get to have his FIRST, when Jane Doe ordered her white russian BEFORE that Joe Schmoe did? That’s NOT MORALLY RIGHT. You don’t see at McDonald’s the cashier take Jane Doe’s order for one coke only, ring it up, not fix it and take Joe Schmoe’s order that orders only one coke and get both cokes at the same time or hand Joe Schmoe his coke before Jane Doe DO YOU? I didn’t think so. WHY just because it’s “ALCOHOL” the concept of being nice and considerate suddenly goes out the window? Joe Schmoe SHOULDN’T get to place his order even much less get served before Jane Doe because it shouldn’t matter if they are at a bar or at a fast food place. It is out of COMMON COURTEOUSY TO WAIT YOUR ****TURN**** AND NOT ***CUT*** IN FRONT OF SOMEONE. If the bartender hands the beer to a customer that ordered after I did instead of fixing the mixed drink I ordered, that’s just plain RUDE AND MEAN.
coorslite
“If you think for one freaking minute that there wasn't tears, hugs, kisses, while they were digging threw the rubble and finding bodies everywhere you are so sadly mistaken.”
The difference is these people were VOLUNTEERING, so they weren’t on the clock getting paid to do nothing.
big_momma
“99.999% of the world's people don't count seconds that they wait for food or a drink.”
They do look at minutes though.
http://www.complaints.com/february2003/complaintoftheday.february26.26.htm
http://www.complaints.com/complaintofthedayoctober192000.1.htm
Look at the customers that are pissed about WAITING LONG for their food and drinks.
You are SO WRONG that MOST people aren’t thinking about the amount of **TIME** they wait for things.
“You couldn't pass nursing school after three tries so being an attorney is pretty much outside your grasp, don't you think?”
2 tries you idiot! I didn’t try 3 times.
“Anything for a buck, a few cents, for free food, for "getting over" on something or somebody.”
That’s NOT TRUE! You just don’t get that honestly I’d rather have everything go PERFECTLY than to EVER have to deal with bad service. Don’t you get this? I’d rather not EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, receive ANYTHING for free and have the best service all the time instead. As I stated here before, I’d RATHER restaurants such as Chili’s, Outback, etc. to have a choice of self-service and I’d have the beeper that you wait a table, which I would use that to get up to get my own mixed drink by having the bartender make it beep when my drink is ready. I could get my own condiments from salad bar. I could even ring in my own order by pressing buttons and all the server would do would be to verify that I was charging myself correctly. I could pay just like self checkout at the store. I would get my food when the beeper would go off that would be alerted from the kitchen staff. I’d RATHER ALL RESTAURANTS be like that. It would be so cool not to have to worry about if my condiments are with my meal or being overcharged. I WISH restaurants could be like that instead. I’d rather have great service than get something for free. Don’t you understand this?
“Scam a restaurant out of free food.”
I am NOT scamming anyone out of free food.
“Do you think that was admirable, while you treat human being around you like trash on a daily basis?”
At least I didn’t get myself pregnant like a LOT of students did that were in high school and college that the guy left them. I am PROUD I WAITED.
teleburst
I said : "As I said before, don't you think it's rude at the donut shop if I was to drink a coke that someone bought for me about 10 seconds worth instead of going to get the person at the counter that is ready to order"?
You said: “No.”
MOST PEOPLE WOULD FIND IT RUDE. THEY WOULD AND YOU KNOW IT!
“The bartender didn't have any other option. They HAD to go "in order".”
He didn’t go in order, because I was NEXT and instead he CHOSE to ingest a shot into his stomach instead of get the next customer’s order and fix that order.
“As you point out, the service to the previous guest wasn't over until the entire service was finished and that would be to consume the item that the guest wanted the bartender to consume.”
NO, SERVICE to the customer ONLY, ONLY, ONLY, includes fixing the shot for the customer ONLY, NOT pouring the shot for himself and NOT drinking it. Those parts AREN’T PART OF SERVICE TO A CUSTOMER. It’s a service to the BARTENDER. The bartender was servicing himself, NOT a customer. As far as ringing up the item goes, if the customer was ready to leave or just wanted to pay right then and there, then the bartender would still be servicing the customer to ring up the items that were purchased, which one of them is the shot the customer bought the bartender. Then it would be my turn. The bartender should NOT be POURING the shot or TAKING the shot BEFORE he serves a customer. THAT’S SELFISH to do such a thing.
hacinta
“"WHICH AN ACT THAT IS PAID FOR IS EITHER FROM A STRIPPER OR A PROSTITUTE"
or your mom.”
She NEVER did sleep around or be a stripper or be a prostitute.
“"HE WASN'T THINKING OF CUSTOMERS THAT WERE WAITING TO BUY SOMETHING".
He was thinking of the customer that he was already in the process of serving.”
NO, he was thinking of the TIP he’d receive and his stomach. He shouldn’t be thinking of that customer still, because he was FINISHED SERVING THE CUSTOMER HIS SHOT already. The customer probably kept a tab, so there would be no ringing up at that moment.
“How do you know what the owner/manager wants his employees to do? They could very well encourage interaction with the guests.”
They would want their bartenders to RESPECT customer’s time. They wouldn’t want them to undercharge an item because they were too affected by the alcohol to do their job correctly, now would they? They wouldn’t want the bartender to forget to ring up items, now would they? NO they wouldn’t. When you drink, you aren’t as coordinated. That’s WHY it’s illegal to drink and drive.
“Now thats the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Friends? Yeah right.”
I DO have friends, but I don’t get together with them that often, which is MY CHOICE, NOT THEIRS. I’d rather have time with my husband or even be on here instead.
“Taking 10 seconds to finish up with a customer does not constitute ignoring.”
The bartender was already finished 10 seconds before the shot fixed for the customer, so YES, the bartender IGNORED me for that 10 seconds to drink. He could have been making my white russian instead and taking my order for it during that 10 seconds. He ignored me to drink. THAT IS BEING IGNORED TO DO SOMETHING FOR HIMSELF.
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penelopemarie
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penolopemarie
“I can't believe in something that was created by man to keep women on a lower standard than men.”
My husband was a virgin before marriage as well. WHO IN THE WORLD SAID IT HAD TO BE JUST WOMEN?
“What year did you live the 1800 hundreds. or was it that no one was interested in opening them up for you.”
I had quite a bit of offers. I didn’t want to get pregnant. I wanted it to be special, unlike you. I had rathered not have just live together situation. I didn’t want to have sex with a bunch of people and I wanted to have a together forever relationship, which is marriage. I didn’t want to be those type of girls that I saw in high school that had babies. NO WAY DID I WANT THAT WHEN I HAD COLLEGE AHEAD OF ME. I am VERY, VERY GLAD I WAITED. Foreplay is MUCH MORE FUN than intercourse in my opinion.
jajajajajajaja.............jajajajajajaja......JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA........JAJAJ AJAJAJAJA....
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did you marry the 40 year old virgin...how can being married make your first experience more special. who told you mine wasn't special. who told you i regret the decisions i have made in my life, just because i did NOT want to either get married, much less stay a virgin, doesn't mean i regret any of my decisions.
you definetly live on cloud nine and wonderland...marriage is forever, yeah right especially with that attitude i see your marriage lasting for ever and ever...yep...
i never got pregnant while i was in high school or college, and i did finish both. but you do admit you had foreplay with other people, you just didn't have vaginal intercourse. same thing to me. experimenting sexually = having a sexually active lifestyle.
the only difference between your "marriage" and my living situation is the marriage papers...everything else is the same. in fact our commitment is actually more than your commitment will ever be. |
hacinta
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There is a show on TV Coyote Ugly. The owner of the bars Lil, insists that her girls have drinks with the customers. She is a very successful business woman with a number of establishments. Point being, that you just dont know. It could be considered good customer service. It was being respectful to the customer that was doing shots with the bartender. So what you big baby you had to wait, big deal. The bartender didnt drop everything and run to make your well drinks.
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coorslite
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Cuntflap,
Go back to band camp.
Shut the hell up.
Grow up.
Get a hobby or get a life. (or just die we won't care!)
But do not EVER tell ANYONE on this board how to do their job again until you have done it. Don't EVER tell ANYONE on this board about morals, honesty until you have them. Don't ever judge us because you are the most ignorant cuntflap that has ever been on the earth.
When you have been a server bartender or human with friends or when you develope manners maybe just maybe we won't wish a painfull life on you... oh you already are living that. Burn in your own hell of ranch~ |
caby_kay
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I had quite a bit of offers. I didn’t want to get pregnant. I wanted it to be special, unlike you. I had rathered not have just live together situation. I didn’t want to have sex with a bunch of people and I wanted to have a together forever relationship, which is marriage. I didn’t want to be those type of girls that I saw in high school that had babies. NO WAY DID I WANT THAT WHEN I HAD COLLEGE AHEAD OF ME. I am VERY, VERY GLAD I WAITED. Foreplay is MUCH MORE FUN than intercourse in my opinion.
loads, offers don't include your brothers and cousins and foreplay isn't just when your daddy made you suck his cock |
coorslite
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So cum loadass... is that what you graduated from college with? |
coorslite
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Special...... ummmmmmm yeah..... you sucked cocks and whatever... cause who would want to return the favor to a cuntflap that smells like ranch bbq? Did you imagine it was ranch cuming out of the millions of dicks you sucked? Yeah you haven't seen me be mean yet cuntflap! |
caby_kay
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lords has an associates degree, just like peggy hill! |
coorslite
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cuntflap has an ass degree? laughing and knowing she doesn't have a clue~ |
jenaclaree
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Lords,
I'm here reading about all the seconds wasted. My question is, what are you in such a hurry for. And I want a more specific answer than "most people want to leave". |
hacinta
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My thought is, if seconds count so dearly then why go out to eat?
Scramble an egg at home, nuke a hungry man. If those few seconds or even minutes are precious, surely there should be a reevaluation of the total amount of time spent driving, parking and walking into the restaurant. After all that takes seconds, even amounting to minutes.
In reality we all know the only reason is lords is self absorbed. She tries to rationalize by saying things like "who would want to wait any longer" "I want to get on my way." Little does she realize to us reasonable people it is not rational at all. She sounds like a 3 year old.
Formerly Jammie
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big_momma
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I think she has obssessive compulsive disorder, with a personality disorder, as well as an eating disorder. She's a control freak, too.
If you think about it, every issue she has is about control She wants to control everything around her, and her efforts on this board amount to trying to impact servers and control the way they serve.
She can't recognize that Applebee's management said that the fries didn't come with that sandwich because as a control freak, she won't/can't acknowledge it. It takes her control away.
She wants to control every situation she's in whether it's being served, driving in traffic, going to the supermarket. She actually fantasizes about restaurants becoming more like cafeterias so she can control every aspect of eating out. This is a sign of a person that realizes she has no control over anything in her life, and it's her way of coping.
She's a very sad, frightening person. Can you imagine having to live that way?
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dtugg
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Can you imagine actually living with somebody like that? She must suck some really good cock and her husband must be a huge pussy for him to actually put up with it. |
big_momma
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I couldn't spend 5 minutes with someone like that without kicking their ass. I don't think her husband is too bright, he can't be. It sounds like she spends a lot of time alone, which isn't a big surprise. He watches sci-fi movies and she trolls the internet looking for posts about bad service in restaurants. True OCD at its finest. |
big_momma
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I couldn't spend 5 minutes with someone like that without kicking their ass. I don't think her husband is too bright, he can't be. It sounds like she spends a lot of time alone, which isn't a big surprise. He watches sci-fi movies and she trolls the internet looking for posts about bad service in restaurants. True OCD at its finest. |
dtugg
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If it had just made a few posts, I would have laughed the whole thing off as a joke. I mean, nobody could possibly be that ignorant and stupid. But the number and length of its posts (I'm guessing that if you combined everything that it has ever wrote on the subject it would be longer than Atlas Shrugged for example) confirms to me that it is for real. Either that or it is some loser that has nothing to better to do with its time than make up a crazy person and spend all of its time posting as it as some elaborate hoax. Either way, the person that calls itself lords, is the biggest loser that I have ever even heard of.
Lords, if you are actually reading this, I have news for you: Nobody cares what you say, you have not changed anybody's mind about anything that you have ever posted on. All you have accomplished is waste a huge amount of your time, which apparently isn't very valuable (even though you will bitch about waiting an extra 30 seconds for whatever crap you shove down your stomach), especially since you are like 30 and can't get a job that pays more than $8/hr. Do us all (yourself included) a huge favor and go shoot yourself. I seriously hope that you do it.
Oh yeah, you regularly ingest the bodily fluids of servers. Seriously, I guarentee it. They all hate you, even the ones that are nice to you and there are plenty of people that will do stuff like that to your food. If I were you I would watch out because there are probably people that are crazy enough to even poison you and if they were smart about it there would be no way to prove that they did it.
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rev_rund
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Loads - Why don't you get a job as a bartender and settle this disagreement once and for all? If you know so much about how the business should run why don't you do it? I make a very good living in the bar business and according to you I don't know what I'm doing so you should be a huge success.
No answer huh?
Now on to your other drivel... It's funny that your original argument was that I was passing up sales (money) by not serving you before I take a shot. Now that I point out that the guy who buys the shot for me spends a lot more money than you, You switch the topic to I am being prejudiced for treating customers different.
First you say I'm stupid for passing up a "SALE" then when I point out that the other guy is a bigger "SALE" you say It's wrong to think only about money. Which is it? Should I only think about money when I run my business or should I think about how people feel?
1. If I only think about money than I would have to serve the guy who wanted me to do the shot because he spends more than you
2. If I only think about how people feel than I would have to do the shot with the guy because it makes him feel good. If I make him feel bad only to make you feel good than I haven't done anything at all. I've made one mad to please another and you haven't written anything that proves that I should try to please you over him. |
lords_of_acid
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penelopemarie
“How can being married make your first experience more special.”
I hope it will be the ONLY person I have intercourse with unless my husband happens to die before me. It’s special to me, because I only am with that person and he’s only with me. If I just lived with him and not gotten married, it would be so much easier for him to leave or throw me out. When you are married, you have legal things you have to go through and it does cost money to get divorced. Most people try to work out their problems harder if they married than if they aren’t, because they aren’t tied to that person for life legally.
“You definetly live on cloud nine and wonderland...marriage is forever, yeah right especially with that attitude i see your marriage lasting for ever and ever...yep...”
My parents have been married since 1975. It can happen. I’ve seen people in the newspaper that were together 50 years or more even. Marriages CAN last forever.
“Same thing to me.”
It’s NOT. I’ve had the first boyfriend in high school I went out with for a year and 4 months write on a letter “Put out or get out”. I had a boyfriend in college for 3 years and 3 months say at the 3 yr mark say: “It’s been 3 years and it can go further than this” to me. He left to pursue a career in another country, which is what broke us up. IT’S NOT THE SAME TO A GUY, THAT’S FOR SURE! THAT WANT THAT INTERCOURSE. THEY DON’T WANT “JUST” FOREPLAY. THAT GETS OLD AFTER A WHILE FOR A MAN IT SEEMS. It’s NOT the same!
“The only difference between your "marriage" and my living situation is the marriage papers.”
To a legal standpoint, that’s not true for the most part. If the guy you are living with doesn’t have a will leaving EVERYTHING to you that he owns or almost everything you could be left with NOTHING that he owned. Like if let’s say a girl that works as a cashier at a grocery store doesn’t own much of anything except her car. She lives with a guy. The guy owns his own house and a boat even. The guy dies. He didn't leave the girlfriend ANYTHING in his will or let's say he just doesn't have a will. The girlfriend LEGALLY DOEN’T GET A THING of his. When you are married, COMMUNITY PROPERTY is involved. Like if my husband dies, I can keep the house as long as he wouldn’t have in his will he wouldn’t want me to have it, it goes RIGHT to me, which is next of kin. So you are SOOOOO WRONG that there’s a HUGE difference in being married and not being married.
hacinta
“It could be considered good customer service.”
I am not saying not to take the shot with the customer. I am saying the bartender DOESN’T HAVE TO DO IT AT THAT MOMENT A CUSTOMER IS WAITING TO ORDER.
“It was being respectful to the customer that was doing shots with the bartender.”
Actually, it was treating him with royalty instead of being treated EQUALLY. The bartender should think of EVERY CUSTOMER is just as important as the next person. The act of drinking the shot is NOT SERVING the customer a shot, it’s serving the bartender himself a shot.
“So what you big baby you had to wait, big deal.”
That’s YOUR OPINION. MOST people’s opinions is that they don’t want to wait for ANYTHING if they don’t have to. I hope you wait longer for something for NO REAL REASON. You are an uncaring bitch.
“The bartender didnt drop everything and run to make your well drinks.”
For one thing, I got a white russian made with grey goose vodka and starbucks coffee liquor. THAT IS ***NOT*** A WELL DRINK YOU IDIOT! Second of all, he didn’t have to drop “EVERYTHING”, he should be SERVING THE PRODUCTS OF THE BAR, NOT DRINKING ON THE JOB. There was NO REAL REASON TO MAKE A CUSTOMER WAIT TO INGEST SOMETHING unless they are coughing.
coorslite
“But do not EVER tell ANYONE on this board how to do their job again until you have done it.”
I’ve done customer service at the donut shop and I KNOW to go in the order people are in. I HAVE DONE THAT. As far as not be a waitress goes, how come I see how many mistakes these people do and KNOW WHAT TO DO TO IMPROVE THEM? It’s because I ***DON’T HAVE TO DO THE JOB TO KNOW, YOU IDIOT**! It’s common sense that you might forget something if you don’t write the order down, like DUH! Servers still try to get drink orders without writing it down and then forget my drink That is just STUPID.
“Don't EVER tell ANYONE on this board about morals, honesty until you have them.”
Pot calling the kettle BLACK you THIEF! What ever happened to the commandment “Thou Shall Not STEAL”, huh? Talk about HOW UNMORAL THAT IS. You have the NERVE TO TELL ME SOMETHING YOU UNCARING THIEF!
big_momma
“She can't recognize that Applebee's management said that the fries didn't come with that sandwich because as a control freak, she won't/can't acknowledge it. It takes her control away.”
This has NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with control. I go by the EXACT WORDING on the menu. If they can’t write a menu correctly, that’s NOT MY PROBLEM.
“She actually fantasizes about restaurants becoming more like cafeterias so she can control every aspect of eating out.”
It’s NOT about “control” it’s about not being pissed off when the server forgets something or my food is brought wrong. I want PERFECT service and the only way to do that in a restaurant, is if you mostly SELF-SERVE yourself. You know if you forgot your ranch or forgot to get your coke or got the wrong entrée at the counter.
dtugg
“Can't get a job that pays more than $8/hr.”
I make MORE than that.
rev_rund
“Loads - Why don't you get a job as a bartender and settle this disagreement once and for all?”
For one thing, I don’t like a schedule of a bartender. Secondly, I don’t want to breathe second hand smoke like I did at the donut shop to get lung cancer. Thirdly, you have to go to bartending school to be certified. I can’t just go and be a bartender without the proper schooling, which I’d rather NOT do.
“If you know so much about how the business should run why don't you do it?”
As I stated before, a bar is EXACTLY like counter service. There is NO DIFFERENCE in my eating or drinking while I IGNORE a customer that wants to place their order. It’s called COMMON DECENY which you seem not to have.
“First you say I'm stupid for passing up a "SALE" then when I point out that the other guy is a bigger "SALE" you say It's wrong to think only about money. Which is it?”
For one thing, they are BOTH SALES. Secondly, it is wrong to DISRESPECT someone’s time that is truly NEXT to drink something. It is. Just like I passed up opportunities to make more tips, because I went in order by doing drive-thru instead of only thinking of my income and serving the people inside first that came in AFTER the customer at drive-thru ordered. I was thinking of people’s FEELINGS, NOT the “TIP” that I may or may not have gotten inside.
“If I make him feel bad only to make you feel good than I haven't done anything at all.”
If the customer feels bad about the bartender not drinking something with him, who’s the selfish one? It’s not fair that that customer is HOGGING the bartender to have the bartender play around with him by drinking the shot along with him. The bartender should be SELLING THE PRODUCTS of the store. The bartender can ring up the shot that is bought from the customer for him, but that doesn’t mean that bartender has to DISRESPECT the next customer's time by drinking instead of SERVING a product of the bar as he should be.
“I've made one mad to please another and you haven't written anything that proves that I should try to please you over him.”
I HAVE, it’s called “SELLING THE PRODUCTS INSTEAD OF INGESTING THEM AT THAT MOMENT.” In other words, your job is to “SELL”, NOT to drink. If you drink, that’s a time when you DON’T have orders to fix. Don’t you get what customer service is? When I go to McDonald’s, I don’t see the cashier drinking something before serving me along with a friend of theirs, so WHY just because it’s a “BAR” that customers have to be treated ****ANY*** DIFFERENTLY by DISRESPECTING PEOPLE’S TIME that want to order something to drink? Just because it’s “ALCOHOL” doesn’t mean I should get treated ANY DIFFERENTLY than when I buy a coke at McDonald’s. I should get the SAME RESPECT by not having my order delayed to have someone drink instead of serve me. There’s NO REASON to take that shot at that moment. You can ring it up, but the act of drinking it, doesn’t have to be done at that moment, because it’s NOT A SALE. A sale is the act of ringing it up. Don’t you get this? You haven’t answered me as to WHY you think that McDonald’s customer service is ANY DIFFERENT than a bar? It's NOT ***ANY*** DIFFERENT!
Don't you get that at the time that the bartender is taking the shot, he ISN'T SELLING ***ANYTHING***, that he is just DRINKING SOMETHING at that exact moment?
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coorslite
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cuntflap, go to hell. I'm out you are too ignorant to understand that it's not all about you. Taking that 5 cents I stole from innocent people and leaving. Argue with yourself. Go suck your husband.
Love you all but cuntflap is not going anywhere so I am~ see ya on bitter! |
big_momma
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Lords I'm pretty sick of your dumb ass but I'll say it again. Bars and restaurants are not McDonalds. No matter how much you wish it, it will never be so. You seem to like McDonalds a lot so maybe you should just eat there.
As a former bartender I can tell you I was there to entertain as much as I was there to serve. If somebody bought me a shot, I did it with him. I didn't tell him to wait a minute because some whiney-assed baby walked in off the street wanted her white russian and couldn't wait an extra 5 seconds. This is because I had a relationship with that customer. If one of my regular customers wanted something, they usually got it before somebody that just bellied up to the bar. What you don't understand is that bars are a lot like private clubs and the regulars are the club members. If you aren't a regular, you're at the end of the line. That's just how it is and that's how it will always be. It doesn't matter if you like it and it will never change.
You will always be on the outside looking in, simply because you don't understand how any relationship works.
And it cracks me up that for you, being married is all about money. It doesn't surprise me though. |
dtugg
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Lords, I love how the only thing that you can say to me after what I posted is the comment about how much money you make. That must mean that eveything else is true. I dare you to respond to anything else that I said in my above post. If not, I think that it should stand as fact that everything else that I said is true. By the way, did you enjoy the spit that was in your ranch dressing this weekend? |
kleykulele
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Lords, my parents have been married for 26 years, my grandparents 51 years. My parents "had intercourse" before they were married. I have no idea about my grandparents, nor do I care how long they waited.
I waited until I was 23 to "have intercourse", which was only a year and a half ago. I had originally intended to wait until marriage but you know what? I fell in love and decided it wasn't necessary to wait; my boyfriend loved me regardless of my virginity. I don't regret it at all, and to say that having sex before marriage cheapens a relationship is close-minded, religiously biased, and ignorant. Maybe it wasn't right for you, but how dare you push your beliefs on others just because they don't share your same viewpoint.
And there is this thing called birth control. Not everyone who has sex gets pregnant, as I'm sure you're well aware of now that you wear big girl pants and are all married and such. |
tipqueen
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"It" is such a "loser loser loser"!!!
No reason to "waste your breath" (or typing skills, manners, morals or anything else) "IT" just doesn't understand there is life outside of it's disturbed "bubble". |
lords_of_acid
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 08:52 am: |
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dtugg
"Especially since you are like 30."
NO, I'm 29yrs old.
"Nobody cares what you say."
They respond, so they DO care what I say.
"If not, I think that it should stand as fact that everything else that I said is true."
NO, it's NOT. I just really have NOTHING to add to it, that's all.
big_momma
"If one of my regular customers wanted something, they usually got it before somebody that just bellied up to the bar."
Do you HONESTLY think that's "FAIR" or the "RIGHT" thing to do? It's NOT and YOU KNOW IT, whether or not you think it's fair, it's TRULY NOT. Letting people cut is NOT fair, it's just NOT, no matter "WHERE" you are unless it's some place like a hospital where they take situations by what's life threatening first, which that is the way it should be, because people's lives are on the line. In a bar, people's lives aren't on the line, so it should go by first come, first serve just like McDonald's. Just because one is serving "Non-alcohol" type of drinks all the time and the other doesn't all the time, doesn't mean you should go out of order. Getting a coke at McDonald's is just like getting a coke at a bar. Getting a white russian is just like getting a drink at McDonald's, except it takes longer to make the white russian, which is more work and that is why we tip for that normally. It doesn't mean a guy at the bar that only wants a beer should get his beer before my white russian just because his takes less time and that he's a regular if I ordered my white russian BEFORE he even walked through the door. You know that's NOT fair or right to serve him before me if I arrived and ordered BEFORE him. That IS wrong and you know it.
"If you aren't a regular, you're at the end of the line. That's just how it is and that's how it will always be. It doesn't matter if you like it and it will never change."
Actually, I don't get treated like that MOST of the time when I go to bars. If I did, I wouldn't go very much. I get treated with respect most of the time by the bartender going in order of arrival. MOST bartenders DON'T make me wait to get my drink. They are NICE enough to have some **RESPECT** for customer's time and feelings. You don't have that OBVIOUSLY. All you care about is who you want to serve, not EVERYONE that can be served. All you care about is the money, not about people's feelings or time.
That's just how it is, because you are letting it be that way by serving regulars first. You don't have to DISRESPECT customers like that. That's MEAN and you KNOW IT! In other words, you *CHOSE* for it to be that way. You **COULD** have decided to serve a customer that isn't regular first if he or she came in first before the regular customer that came in after. It DOESN'T *HAVE* to be that way, it truly doesn't. There are some nice bartenders out there that DON'T do that and they get good tips from me, because they RESPECT me as a person that has **FEELINGS**. It's NOT just about the MONEY.
"And it cracks me up that for you, being married is all about money."
I NEVER said that or implied that. Being married is more about the commitment of being together forever. I was just explaining that a "PIECE of paper" that penelopemarie says a marriage is, is truly much more than that. Yes, money is important to pay for funeral expenses. If the boyfriend dies, she may not have any money to bury him with even or to feed her kid was my point. Even if she does have the money, she could have used his money, but instead she didn't get married, so she more than likely wouldn't have that option. |
penelopemarie
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Post Number: 154
Registered: 06-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 09:22 am: |
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penelopemarie
“How can being married make your first experience more special.”
I hope it will be the ONLY person I have intercourse with unless my husband happens to die before me. It’s special to me, because I only am with that person and he’s only with me. If I just lived with him and not gotten married, it would be so much easier for him to leave or throw me out. When you are married, you have legal things you have to go through and it does cost money to get divorced. Most people try to work out their problems harder if they married than if they aren’t, because they aren’t tied to that person for life legally.
“You definetly live on cloud nine and wonderland...marriage is forever, yeah right especially with that attitude i see your marriage lasting for ever and ever...yep...”
My parents have been married since 1975. It can happen. I’ve seen people in the newspaper that were together 50 years or more even. Marriages CAN last forever.
“Same thing to me.”
It’s NOT. I’ve had the first boyfriend in high school I went out with for a year and 4 months write on a letter “Put out or get out”. I had a boyfriend in college for 3 years and 3 months say at the 3 yr mark say: “It’s been 3 years and it can go further than this” to me. He left to pursue a career in another country, which is what broke us up. IT’S NOT THE SAME TO A GUY, THAT’S FOR SURE! THAT WANT THAT INTERCOURSE. THEY DON’T WANT “JUST” FOREPLAY. THAT GETS OLD AFTER A WHILE FOR A MAN IT SEEMS. It’s NOT the same!
“The only difference between your "marriage" and my living situation is the marriage papers.”
To a legal standpoint, that’s not true for the most part. If the guy you are living with doesn’t have a will leaving EVERYTHING to you that he owns or almost everything you could be left with NOTHING that he owned. Like if let’s say a girl that works as a cashier at a grocery store doesn’t own much of anything except her car. She lives with a guy. The guy owns his own house and a boat even. The guy dies. He didn't leave the girlfriend ANYTHING in his will or let's say he just doesn't have a will. The girlfriend LEGALLY DOEN’T GET A THING of his. When you are married, COMMUNITY PROPERTY is involved. Like if my husband dies, I can keep the house as long as he wouldn’t have in his will he wouldn’t want me to have it, it goes RIGHT to me, which is next of kin. So you are SOOOOO WRONG that there’s a HUGE difference in being married and not being married
if he wants to leave he will leave regardless and he will cheat regardless. being married has absolutely no guarantee that since it is harder to leave, no one in the marriage won't or won't cheat. that is la-la land believes. you are just talking about the legal things that keep you together and what you are keeping if you guys separate. WOW that's love. my partner for 7 and a half YEARS have a daughter together, and that is more powerful than a legal contract telling us that now we need a lawyer to get rid of each other. we can never get rid of each other we have a daughter, that binds us for life. i can just see you now babbling about how many men leave their kids and wives...well my partner is an excellent father, EXCELLENT. lets say that we don't make it as a couple, HE WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY DAUGHTERS LIFE.
Being married is more about the commitment of being together forever. I was just explaining that a "PIECE of paper" that penelopemarie says a marriage is, is truly much more than that. Yes, money is important to pay for funeral expenses. If the boyfriend dies, she may not have any money to bury him with even or to feed her kid was my point. Even if she does have the money, she could have used his money, but instead she didn't get married, so she more than likely wouldn't have that option.TERS LIFE....and in mine.
and as i see it is defnitely about the money. you are even thinking about the funeral expenses. do you think i care about that if the parent of my child dies. besides we both have families that will help us no questions asked. whatever we make in this household is for both of us, what is his is mine and what is mine is his. we do not need a legal contract to specify the details. |
hacinta
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 08:24 pm: |
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penel, commitment is what is in the heart, not on the dotted line. When my son was born my ex husband who I was not married to at the time took out life insurance on each other. So the surviving parent would be fine. I fully understand that because you and your significant other are not married it does not make your commitment insignificant.
Formerly Jammie
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lords_of_acid
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 08:45 am: |
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penelopemarie
"If he wants to leave he will leave regardless and he will cheat regardless."
I NEVER said life was "GUARANTEED" to that person. I understand that. I am saying I find anyway, if there's an easier way out to just move out, they'll just move out and not try to work things out like if a couple is married, because as I said, it cost money as well as it is a lot of trouble to worry about going to court also. I just think someone that is married is going to try a bit harder to make things work out than someone that can just leave on a whim and NEVER look back. I agree that they can just leave no matter what without trying to make it work even if the couple is married.
"Whatever we make in this household is for both of us, what is his is mine and what is mine is his. we do not need a legal contract to specify the details."
That's great for now, but who knows if that will be that way always. NO ONE IS GUARANTEED TO ANYBODY NO MATTER IF THEY ARE MARRIED OR NOT. People sometimes change and your man can too, just as mine. So when you say, "HE WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY DAUGHTERS LIFE", may not always be true. Just like I hope to always have my husband forever, but that doesn't mean it will last forever. So, married or not, life is truly NOT GUARANTEED TO ANYONE and that includes your boyfriend being in your daughter's life. He can change just as my husband can. So you don't truly know that he will always be in her life. You always will hope he will, but no matter if you are married or not, there's no guarantees in life.
I just feel people may try just a bit harder to make things work out if they are married, that's all. To each it's own, you know. If you are happy, then more power to you. I am happy with my husband. |
jysi
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 09:40 am: |
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Lords - I lived with my husband for 8 years before we married. During that time my brother went through two wives. He was married - I wasn't. Look at which one lasted and which ones didn't.
The piece of paper means nothing. It's the commitment that does. |
bistroy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 11:52 pm: |
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rev_rund
“Loads - Why don't you get a job as a bartender and settle this disagreement once and for all?”
For one thing, I don’t like a schedule of a bartender. Secondly, I don’t want to breathe second hand smoke like I did at the donut shop to get lung cancer. Thirdly, you have to go to bartending school to be certified. I can’t just go and be a bartender without the proper schooling, which I’d rather NOT do. "
First of all, you don't have the skills to become a bartender, with your "work ethic."
Secondly, you don't have to become certified to become a bartender to be a bartender.
Again, you lose.
You just couldn't handle it. You know yourself that you could make more than if you worked in your "+$8/hr job" but you'd rather berade those that actually make more than you for doing their job the right way, be it "morally correct" or not.
F you and the horse you rode in on.
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coorslite
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 11:57 pm: |
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will not feed the troll! So... that being said. I love my exhusband because he is the father of my children. Not my baby daddy. He is an amazing man and the best father my children could ever have. BUT we are not together. We are tied together and will be grandparents within 2 weeks. He's my friend because we were both adult enough to realize it is all about our children. My kids know and were raised by two people that were not together love them. I would never say anything bad about thier father and he has told them the same thing. Me and John are getting married and my exhusband will be at our wedding. Because we are adults. Sometimes things happen but we have always tried to get along.
Off the soap box... Just wanted to let you all know I'm there with you. Only not going to feed the cuntflap~ |
bistroy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:08 am: |
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Congrats, Coors!!!
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jenaclaree
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Post Number: 440
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:08 am: |
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I don't understand why people actually get mad at her. I think of it as entertainment. She doesn't affect my life in any way. And sometimes I come on the internet and get to read her ridiculousness and laugh about it. No reason to abandon a website or get angry. In reality if you think about there's probably more crazies out there like her. As long as it's not affecting you don't worry about it. |
jenaclaree
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:10 am: |
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One more thing....Where else can you find a woman who thinks it's cool her husband was a virgin when they got married? Not only that, where else can you find a woman who actually BELIEVES her husband was virgin when they got married?!?!?!?!
PRICELESS!!!!!!! |
coorslite
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Username: coorslite
Post Number: 442
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:42 pm: |
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jenaclaree go to watching paint dry and join a rational or irrational without the cuntflap talk about getting to know each other. I know I started the topic but I am so tired of fighting with the ignorant that I will not feed her anymore. Most of us agree to disagree. Cuntflap just dissagrees. So..... come join a healthy discussion, I think, and tell us about yourself, what's going on in your life. Share good Karma! |
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