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kate_utah
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Username: kate_utah
Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 03:37 pm: | 
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How do you feel about restaurants telling you how much of a tip is appropriate by for instance putting a note on the check:
It is a common standard to reward good service with 15-20% tip. |
bistroy
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Username: bistroy
Post Number: 153
Registered: 01-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 04:37 pm: |
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Keep reading on here Kate. There are some that don't think that it's quite that common. |
kate_utah
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Username: kate_utah
Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 05:20 pm: |
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I am seeing it more and was wondering if other people started noticing it as well and what they thought about it. |
westley
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Username: westley
Post Number: 72
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 06:15 pm: |
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I think that they should put that on the menu in restaurantss that are frequented by foreigners - cabs, too. Others, it doesn't really bother me, and I have started seeing it a bit more, but it's sort of like the auto-grat: it could cost servers just as easily as benefit them. |
oldwiseuncle
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Username: oldwiseuncle
Post Number: 21
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:06 pm: |
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I don't think that an establishment should have something on the menu that says, " For good service, you should tip X%." However, I have seen may establishments that have a note on the bottom of the credit card slip that simply says, "15% = x, 20% = x." The "x" amounts are the % of the bill. Nice little subtle system.
I truly believe from my past experience as a server that some people just honestly aren't up to date on tipping trends/standards. I have served some of the nicest, most pleasent people you will ever meet...........they are polite, friendly, and a pleasure to wait on............then you get the 8-10% shot.
I like the little " tip meter" idea on the bottom of the CC slip. Subtle, but could possibly be effective.
Of course that won't work on the A%*holes, but if a few can be converted, it's worth it! |
snapdragon
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Username: snapdragon
Post Number: 23
Registered: 02-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 10:36 pm: |
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It's probably useless. People who care, already know. People who don't know, don't know because they don't care. |
vitalryan
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Username: vitalryan
Post Number: 104
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 11:25 pm: |
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I had it at my last restaurant, maybe once a week did I see a tip that actually matched the percentage suggestions on the receipt. And I was working 10-12 shifts a week.
We have the inserts that go into the check presenters, but those NEVER work... totally pointless, no one reads them.
snapdragon has it pretty much right, people that tip like crap, don't care or just flat out don't want to care about tip percentages. |
vitalryan
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Username: vitalryan
Post Number: 105
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 11:28 pm: |
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But, in my opinion, I think restaurants should simply include an 18% gratuity on every check that goes to the wait staff. Plus an extra line that says "Additional Tip" or even a space that allows a tip reduction as well. That way, the crappy tippers at least know they are tipping below average and can no longer sit back on the "I just didn't know about tipping standards"
I think that would be a brilliant idea actually, but hey, who am I? |
rev_rund
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Username: rev_rund
Post Number: 266
Registered: 06-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 09:52 am: |
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I have no earthly reason why, but tip reminders and Total after gift card reminders drive me crazy. I know there are a lotta dipshuts out there who need these things but I feel that I conduct my restaurant business in a way that indicates I'm in the "Biz". My girlfriend and I had a $100 Gift at a pretty nice place in town. We banged out a $200 dollar tab, which made it a half price meal. When he came with the bill he not only rewrote the total he wrote the tipping guidlines for $200. I tipped 20% on the 200, but would have tipped more if the guy hadn't treated me like a schlub who needs trained. I think westley was right you can get burned doing that stuff too. |
westley
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Username: westley
Post Number: 74
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 01:49 pm: |
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"When he came with the bill he not only rewrote the total he wrote the tipping guidlines for $200."
Assuming all other aspects of the service were perfect, I would have tipped him exactly 15% of the pre-tax total (before discount). His move was pretty insulting, and there's no way I would have given him more than that after he insulted me. JMHO |
ricmcg
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Username: ricmcg
Post Number: 29
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 02:20 pm: |
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I think most people that tip poorly do it conciously. Thus, putting a tip scale on the bill would not help these people. However, I do think there are some people who are genuinely unaware that their tip is lower than normal. I work in North Carolina, where we get a fair share of people from small southern towns coming to the mall for the weekend. The prices are higher than they are used to paying, but sometimes they are simply not aware that your tip should be based on the bill. They think that the usual $5 that they would leave as a tip in their small, hometown restaurant is sufficient in all situations. A tip scale might help these people, as well as foreigners who are not aware of our tipping norms. |
ricmcg
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Username: ricmcg
Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 02:21 pm: |
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Also to add something about the gift card post. I have written the original total on a gift card receipt before because it happens fairly often that people will based on what is left over after their gift card has been used. I don't ever write the tipping guidelines along with it, but I do often rewrite the total. |
westley
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Username: westley
Post Number: 78
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 03:37 pm: |
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Writing out the total is helpful - if you don't, I may have to ask you (not if it's $100 like in the story above, but if my whole meal is comp'd, then how do I know what the total was?). So, all you're doing is saving me the trouble of asking you for the info, which is smart. It's only writing out the tipping guidelines that I think is insulting. |
rev_rund
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Username: rev_rund
Post Number: 275
Registered: 06-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 07:56 am: |
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I think I should add a little context to my gift card problem. Most places I understand why someone would rewrite the total. The place I was at is one of thos uber-snooty, even the homeless guys in the dumpster out back look down on you, kinda joints. To say the staff is haughty is to say the Crocodile Hunter had a bad experience with a stingray. Anyway, if you choose to be a snooty waiter, and you choose to look down your nose at me for not spending $150 for a $30 bottle of wine, then in my opinion you don't get to rewrite the total on the check. You can't act like my social better and then try to remind me how much I spent, it just doesn't fly. Like I said, if you spend your days like I do pouring food into the gaping maw of the unwashed masses than by all means write the total. |
vitalryan
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Username: vitalryan
Post Number: 119
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
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I have the same issues with giftcards, they spend $80, use a $50 gift card, and leave you $6 on the remianing $30, it happens ALL THE TIME. I don't write anything, however I've made comments before about the total before giftcard and those people did tip me properly.
Crap like that happens all the time, like a $60 check, they give you $20 in cash, and say "put the rest on the card", then leave you like $5 on the remaining $40 card. Peoople are STUPID. It's the reality of life, and I DO know corporate restaurants in Miami that automatically add gratuity to ALL CHECKS no matter what size.
It's a shame my restaurant won't do the same considering we are in a high tourist area. |
penelopemarie
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Username: penelopemarie
Post Number: 137
Registered: 06-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
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i wished they would do it too...i don't understand why some have it and other don't... |
genise
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Username: genise
Post Number: 22
Registered: 09-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:40 pm: |
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If they want to tell me what they think, fine. That doesn't make their suggestion a good idea or a bad idea. |
vozveratu
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Username: vozveratu
Post Number: 904
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 09:00 am: |
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Gift cards are to save money, so I don't expect a customer to tip huge amounts, but 20% on the Pre-discounted amount would be great. ie:
200.00 Bill
100.00 Gift Card
100.00 Due
40.00 Tip
Customer pays 140.00.
Savings?
100.00. |
tipqueen
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Username: tipqueen
Post Number: 381
Registered: 03-2006
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 09:03 am: |
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YES SIR EE OH MITTY!!!! LOVE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS!! (and THAT IS THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE!!!) |