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george
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Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

The tip credit provision was passed into law in by the Senate without understanding that such a law would promote and legalize fraud on our public. The tip credit provision allows employers to pay employees who receive tip income from our public as little as $2.12 an hour as long as the tips received along with that $2.12 an hour brings the employees wages up to an amount equal or above the minimum wage of $5.15 an hour. A condition of this provision which is clearly being ignored is that in order for an employer to take a tip credit on his tipped employee he must allow the tipped employee to retain all tips. This ridiculous law prohibits itself. How can an employer credit part of an employee's tips to himself when he must allow the tipped employee to retain all tips? An employee who usually receives $50 a day in tips can have his employer required wages reduced by up to $25 a day if customers tip him that amount or more. In the case of this employee who usually receives $50 dollars a day in tips, his employer by taking a tip credit on him can end up saving himself $25 dollars a day in required minimum wages. Add on top of that the fact that some states are even allowing the employer an ability to force the employee to give part of his tips to other employees working for the employer and the employer can now credit even more of the customer's tip to himself. If the employer has a mandatory tip pooling policy where the employee receiving $50 a day in tips must give $10 dollars to another employee who aids him in his service, the employer may now leave the employee with $40 dollars of which the employer is crediting $25 of it to himself and distribute the $10 remaining to another employee who will now be eligible to be paid $10 less than minimum wage.

This is a fraud on our public that must be exposed. Not only are employees having their tips extorted from them, our public is being defrauded by these illegal and unconstitutional business practices. Please help our cause and seriously consider doing a documentary on what's happening to our public's tips. I see many possibilities for a documentary on this subject. You could show customers leaving a restaurant stating that they had indeed left a tip for their server and then confront the owner on why the owner was crediting the customer's tip to himself. You could confront the Department of Labor or the Federal government on why they were allowing businesses to defraud their customers in such ways. You could get testimonies from employees all across this country exposing the truth of what is happening to the customer's tip after the customer leaves such as the owner took part of it away from me so he could share it with his other employees.
Billions of dollars that the public has intended financially benefit workers in the service industry are going directly into the pockets of big corporations.
Employers are stealing our tips, Michael. Employers are defrauding our customers Michael. The federal government is turning a blind eye like they always do but this time it can be exposed. Please help.


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californialaw
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 04:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Fahren height of Stupidity... Yes because Ol Mike is gonna stop it.. He is too busy eating..
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george
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

So what are you gonna do Californiacrook, get your law degree and suck up to all the corporate thieves in America like the rest of the rats in our justice system do?
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teleburst
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Well, he's not going to work for organized crime (being PC here) like you do.
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george
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

The organized crime you are refering to is listed on the stock exchange. I am working for a publicly traded company not organized crime Teleburst. I think it's more likely you are working for organized crime, your'e the one who thinks it's OK for businesses to steal their employee's tips and defraud their customers.
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californialaw
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Please! I have always been a strict opposer of Tip Pools but Im not going to go as far as to write Mike Moore a letter about tips, I think he is busy keeping track of bodies in Iraq, not how much tips got taken from you last night. Look George, why dont you just write your congress and leave it at that. This conspiracy plot against the servers of America is a little far fetched. Have you ever stopped to wonder how you sound? You plague this and other sites with slaps and insults, is this how you can prove a point? Nope. The only thing it gets you is a back lash of the already informed with your seemingly uninformed banter. When I read your posts its like watching the longjump at the Special Olympics, everyone else knows the special child only jumped two inches, but he thinks he has jumped a mile. Us gentle souls will let him think that, because as americans we realize there are some retards out there and we don't have to poke fun at them, it pretty much always presents itself. touche George
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george
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

How about the tip credit Californiacrook? Why are businesses reaping the financial benefits of our public's tips which have undeniably been intended for the employees?
How about the service charges which are fraudulently representing tips?
How about judges who are blatantly taking federal laws out of context so they can allow businesses to defraud their customers and steal their employee's tips?
If these observations make me a retard then I am surely glad to be one. At least I can see the truth. Now run along to your How To Be An Inteligent Crook class. Make sure you make your tuition payoff on time so you can become another great American success.
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teleburst
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Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post

"The organized crime you are refering to is listed on the stock exchange".

I rest my case.

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