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californialaw New member Username: californialaw
Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 10:48 am: |
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So at my current restaurant we have had a 43 percent tip out for the past eight years that I suspect management had designed, yet emphatically denies. So for two months I have been talking within the restuarant with individuals trying to change it. Successfully, we will be having a meeting next week to discuss the terms of the new tip distribution. I am going for removing any percentages and making tip out discretionary. I believe in the fundamentals that if a servers tips are discretionary, so should the support staff. DOnt flame me for that one. Anyway, what does everything else is a fair tip out structure? |
   
jammie New member Username: jammie
Post Number: 190 Registered: 06-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 07:58 am: |
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Californialaw, 43% is an outrage!!!!!!!!! Does the entire staff less servers benefit from the tip out? I advised serverforlife to take a stand, if all the waittaff refused to submitt to the extreeme tip out. Really what could management do? Again I would be willing to look elsewhere for employment. It seems that you wouldnt have much to loose. You would have to make over $200.00 a day/night to support that kind of tipout and still make enough to live on. I think that a percentage of your tips or total sales is a good guideline for a reasonable tip out. Not 43%. Alot of places do 10-15% of your tips.Or a percentage of total sales. Is this a chain type dining establishmnet, or privatly owned? If it is chain I would be calling the home office. I am supprised that anyone stays there, I know I wouldnt.Im not anti tip out either.
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scarlett New member Username: scarlett
Post Number: 360 Registered: 01-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 02:51 pm: |
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I'm with Jammie. A 43% tip out is outrageous. And I too am not anti tip-out. ~Imagine if they gave a war and nobody came!~
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daisymae New member Username: daisymae
Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 10:56 am: |
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As a bartender, most restaurants customarily do 1% to bar, 1% to a food runner, 1% to a busser/hostess. Unless it is a fine dining establishment I can't imagine tipping out more than the 3% or 4% to your support staff. They help you do a better job and get you more tips by helping you be efficient but 43% is OUTRAGEOUS. Most states say that a manager/owner can not tell you how much you are required to tip out! I believe management is supposed to stay out of it, in most states anyway! |