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meeulk
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Username: meeulk
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 09:20 am: | 
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I've just started working (again) as a server for supplemental income. I work in a fine dining establishment. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to increase tips? I've read some things online about doing silly things like drawing smiley faces on your check or writing the weather on the bill. Both can be incorporated into a busy shift... along with squatting down at the table to talk to the customers on their level. I guess it's worth a try, but does anyone have anything they do personally? All suggestions are welcome! I'd like to up my income! Thanks! |
vozveratu
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Post Number: 476
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:10 am: |
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Be extremely friendly, read your tables before doing some things like drawing smiley faces or squatting down. Some people like it, some people will think your a nut.
The biggest thing is to increase PPA and know when to do it. I know this sounds bad, but the tables you think will tip big, sell them on stuff that will increase the check average. Those who are complaining about stupid stuff and being difficult, greet them, feed them, street them.
Good luck! |
whateveryouwant
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 01:34 pm: |
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Here's what works for me:
1) The squatting down thing sounds stupid but it works for me within reason. For instance, with small children (eye level) and really old people (easier for them to hear me).
2) Never rush. Seriously, no matter how many other things are going on, once I am at a table they have my undivided attention for however long it takes them to communicate.
3) Make them laugh. Easy to say, harder to do.
But if you can naturally inject a little humor it goes a long way. When I have an all male table I will usually pick out one of the guys to tease.
5) With mixed genders, be nice to the men but pay special attention to the women. I don't know why this works but it does.
4) Cultivate regulars. That's guaranteed cash on slow nights and it will make your busy nights less stressful. |
lords_of_acid
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Username: lords_of_acid
Post Number: 435
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 08:05 pm: |
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meeulk
"But does anyone have anything they do personally?"
I am not a server, but as a customer I tip better if the server apologizes for a mistake. A waiter a Chilis one time brought me diet coke instead of dr. pepper, just because he said he was sorry(also acted like he was sorry) I tipped him better than if he didn't apologize at all. Sure, it's a minor mistake, but it's still nice to feel that the server cares that they've delayed your order.
I also feel, if the mistake is major such as a completely wrong entree, the SERVER is the person that should go talk to the manager about exactly *HOW* it should be handled by asking if the manager could comp something for the customer's inconvenience. DON'T wait for the customer to call the manager.
I also feel, if the server goes in order that requests come in, that the customer won't be waiting as long for things.
#1 rule that I feel will DEFINATELY increase your tips as far as being able to get the order correct is *REREADING* the order that was written down *BEFORE* bringing it to the customer.
This past weekend my husband and I went to Chilis. I had ordered extra fries instead of cinnamon apples, also 2 sides of bar-b-que sauce, and 1 side of mayonnaise. I also ordered a side of ranch, but I got that brought to me suprisingly. Well, this mean server has the GALL to ask "So what did you order?" She had written down the WHOLE order, so she was just TOO LAZY to reread it BEFORE bringing it to me. She made 5 mistakes with my entree.
1. Bringing it to me wrong to begin with.
2. Side of mayonnaise
3. 1 side of bar-b-que sauce
4. 1 side of bar-b-que sauce
5. NO extra fries and cinnamon apples
These were ALL OBVIOUS mistakes. This was NOT like onions on a burger that would be hard to see, these things a server can see very easily. She didn't apologize for these mistakes either.
She also made another mistake. I ordered a margarita appox. 9:02p.m. which happened to be right before our food came out and it didn't get to my table until 9:35p.m. The server had came up to my table after we finished eating, which was 9:20p.m. and she had the GALL to ask "Someone didn't bring out your margarita?" I told her "NO, that I have been waiting almost 20 minutes." I am thinking in my head, "It's *YOUR* job to make sure that the drink comes out in a timely manner." Anyway, I got the manager and the manager told me that they were out of the shakers for the "Presidente' margarita." I also told the manager that she shouldn't have brought it out wrong and she told me that the server printed the ticket correctly as if to take up for the server almost. I was SO pissed. As, if the ticket printing is the ONLY thing that is important when taking food to the customer. The order should be used BEFORE taking the food to the customer as well as putting the order in correctly in the computer. WHAT good did it do to print the ticket correcly? It didn't do me any good, did it? The food came to me WRONG, that was the result.
I also feel that the bartender and the server should have had some type of *COMMUNICATION* as to let the server know that the margarita was going to be in a different glass. See, if the server was CARING, she would have went to ask the bartender about my drink like within 10-15 minutes, not wait about 20 minutes to come to my table to ask me if someone brought the drink or not. Even a simple note by the glass could have helped this situation. Since the bartender gets a tip out percentage, I hold the bartender responsible for not communicating. I also hold the server responsible for not checking on my drink. Communication would have helped possibly. She also had the gall to go to 2 other tables BEFORE even going to the bar as if she didn't care about my long wait. She was really mean. I seriously doubt that when she's the customer that she wants to wait a half an hour for a drink.
Think about it, if I order a hamburger and the server brings me a chicken sandwich, just because the cook messed up doesn't mean that the customer should have to REPEAT the order when the food arrives and that the server should put their *TRUST* into the cook for their tip. That server did, she got ZERO tip for being so uncaring of a human being.
See, as I had told her about the margarita taking about 20 minutes, I also told her that she brought the food out wrong and her response was "WHATEVER." I was thinking, what a bitch. Also when we ordered, I had told her about that we need utensils. This was approx. 8:30p.m. At approx. 9:02p.m. when I had ordered my margarita, I had REMINDED her again about the utensils. Well, anyway, when it was 9:20p.m. when I was telling her about my margarita taking almost 20 minutes, I told her that I shouldn't have had to remind her about the utensils. I couldn't believe that her response was "It's the hostess job." I KNOW it is, but I don't think the CUSTOMER should have to get their own utensils, that just SO RUDE of her. Even my husband agreed 100% to leave this bitch ZERO.
I mean, really, to have the GALL to ask me when my food arrives "So what did you order?" That makes the server look STUPID, VERY STUPID, when she wrote EVERYTHING I SAID DOWN, I saw her. I feel she could have taken 10 seconds to reread the order BEFORE taking it to the customer. This was NOT team work at ALL. Team work is to CATCH OTHERS MISTAKES BEFORE THEY GET TO THE CUSTOMER, which should be the ultimate GOAL, to ELIMINATE mistakes or make them RARE, NOT OFTEN. The server thinks that she only needs to print the ticket correctly and that she can just put her *TRUST* into the other workers, but that's just NOT TRUE at ALL!
Example: Let's say I am the server and the customer at a table hands me the check with a $50 bill. The bill is $10.00 total. I go to the bar to get change. The bartender is busy, so he hands me only $10.00, thinking it is a $20 bill. So, if I would take it to the customer, I'd look pretty dumb that I didn't realize that I was just handed the bartender a $50 bill. I would have to go back to the bar to get $30. The difference is here, that they don't have any order written down, it's all by memory. With food orders if they are written down, there's ALWAYS a way(unless the server loses the paper or didn't print the ticket correctly) to VERIFY if the order is 100% correct or not by REREADING the order.
My point is NEVER, EVER, put trust into your co-workers for your tips. TAKE CHARGE of your destiny and get it right, even if the cook didn't. This way your tips WILL be better more than likely if you get the order 100% correct.
It's like a school project. If I am in a group of 4 people and the other 3 people all put their trust into just me for the grade. Then, it's possible that they may ALL get an *F*. But, if they all worked as a *TEAM* together checking over each others work, then they'd maybe at least get a *C, B, or A*. They may be the blame for the *F*, but I would tell the other group members, "Look it's NOT my fault that I didn't get ANY input or double checking from ANYONE else."
I understand in school people have more time, but if you want to get a good tip, get the order CORRECT.
As far as drawing smiley faces, that just doesn't make a difference to me. This particular server wrote "Thanks." Do you honestly think I CARED about her tip after waiting a half an hour for a margarita and my order having been messed up? NO WAY did I care if she wrote "Thanks."
I just feel, be NICE. Even if the customer is WRONG, just be nice and NEVER ARGUE with a customer. Just get the order right, don't argue, even if they did say "With onions" and now they don't want onions. It's not fair that they lied, but arguing is DEFINATELY NOT going to give you a good tip.
Double check the bill also. Don't put the responsiblity on the customer to catch a mistake. Also, definately apologize for something like that.
My point is rushing will NOT get you a good tip because I know when I rush, I actually make more mistakes. I think MOST people tend to be like that when they rush. I'd rather the server take 5 minutes more to get something to me 100% correct, than for me to have it WRONG. That's my HONEST answer. |
ranjer764
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Username: ranjer764
Post Number: 280
Registered: 09-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:57 pm: |
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Well , gee , that makes it all better. Meeulk ... the biggest mistake you can make is to read one thing that this idiot posts. Her "honesty" would make the Pope throw up his hands.
"Honestly"? Be efficient, timely, and organized. Exhibit genuine care and concern for your guests' dining experiences. Focus on giving, and the tips will take care of themselves. Know that everything balances out in the end, and be yourself in all instances. |
crabbycabbie
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:11 pm: |
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As you might guess my schtick was story telling..I had a million of them for every occasion but that wasn't my only secret to getting good tips while driving a cab
When I first checked in and was assigned a cab I set the radio to the station for whatever sporting event that happened to be going on that day...another button would change the channel to a country station...another button went to rock and so on...whoever I got if they were riding with me for any length of time was asked if they wanted something in particular and with a press of a single button they got it(they of course assumed that I myself was a fan of the same thing they liked since I had the radio set to the station right from the start..it created a connection between us)
One of the jobs we had to do was deliver newspapers to people who for whatever reason did not get theirs that day so early on in my shift I read the paper from front to back and therefore was well read and could talk about anything that was newsworthy they wanted to talk about
I didn't push people to listen to my stories...I usually asked them a question or two and if they seemed interested I'd launch into a short story and if they liked that then a longer one but sometimes it was they who wanted to talk and tell ME stories(those stories often got recycled by me to tell to the next person)
My last strategy was to give out cards with the company name and phone number on them to people who tipped well... I'd write my name and cab number on the back so they could ask for ME next time(during slow times I'd write my name on a hundred of these cards so for good tippers I had the card all ready to hand them as they left the cab)
The idea behind all these tricks was to create a connection between myself and the fare...the last thing I wanted was for them to think of me as a bus driver...I wanted them to like me and want to specifically ride with ME next time so I created an identity they would appreciate and would WANT to reward for making their ride pleasant
BTW This IS something that will surprise you...in my real life I can and have gone MONTHS without saying a single word out loud...I'm not shy or introverted I just would rather not talk but I can be articulate and even some say charming if I need to be |
ranjer764
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Username: ranjer764
Post Number: 285
Registered: 09-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:16 pm: |
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cabbie ... I'd wager that alot of posters here can be really introverted in the "real" world. Message boards allow people that are not big "talkers" to be heard.
I agree with you about making a solid connection with your customers/fares. It's critical to long-term success.
My husband is also a storyteller ... he seeks out weird stories that happen all over the place just so he can relay them. They're even funnier when they happen to him! He's never at a loss for "material". |
shelby
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Username: shelby
Post Number: 15
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 02:13 am: |
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lords dont you eat at chili's alot? do you think the bad service and the manager taking up for the server was a sign that they remember you and dont like you? |
pokervixxen
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 06-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 07:03 am: |
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I pack around about two packs of trident gum, and put pieces in the check presenter. We're a garlic themed restaurant, so my customers get a little chuckle right at the end, right when they're about to pay. The mints at the host desk are those cheapie "Starlights" so the piece of gum adds a personal touch.
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linda
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Username: linda
Post Number: 239
Registered: 02-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 07:34 am: |
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Meeulk,
You mentioned that you are working in "fine dining".
That's a plus to start....because I would believe that most of your guests will tip appropriately (percentage wise) as long as you do your job right.
Watch the other seasoned good servers where you work. You can learn alot from just watching what they do and how they interact with your guests.
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vozveratu
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Username: vozveratu
Post Number: 477
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 07:45 am: |
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Good point, Linda. Not only do you want to impress your customers, but you also need to work on your fellow employees. Don't complain about sidework, ask lots of questions about the restaurant and get to know them. Nothing sucks more than having the desire to work at a restaurant and get the cold shoulder of fellow co-workers. Makes it hard on you to do your job. |
meeulk
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 11:36 am: |
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Hi all,
Most people do tip well in my restaurant, and I guess some people tip 15% regardless of sevice. There may be no hope for increasing tips for those types. I think it just bothers me when a I know a table has been given great service and everyone else is tipping 20%, but this table doesn't. I always wonder what I could've done better. Keep the ideas coming! I'll keep them all in mind! Thanks!
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linda
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Post Number: 240
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 12:17 pm: |
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meeulk,
I serve at a family restaurant. Alot of guests undertip and everyone gets stiffed despite very good service.
But we can turn our tables quick and enough...to help make up for the low or no tips.
"Lords" was probably at your table...and you brought her a refill without asking her! (;-))) |
lords_of_acid
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Username: lords_of_acid
Post Number: 436
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 12:36 pm: |
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shelby
"Do you think the bad service and the manager taking up for the server was a sign that they remember you and dont like you?"
A DIFFERENT LOCATION! The one I usually go to is boarded up still from Katrina. I had to travel to go to a different location. MANY restaurants have STILL NOT opened yet, have limited hours, and a limited menu. So, NO they don't even KNOW ME. I have NEVER been to this location before in my life. |
lords_of_acid
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Post Number: 437
Registered: 01-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 12:59 pm: |
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shelby
I also want to add that the manager I had talked to from the location I usually go to was a man. This manager was a woman. I also NEVER have had that server either. |
ranjer764
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Post Number: 287
Registered: 09-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 09:47 pm: |
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glad to see you're spreading peace and goodwill "lords". It's SO good to have someone as supportive and understanding as you dining at various locations and giving your valuable advice. Whatever would Brinker International do without people like you to set them straight? |
shelby
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 02:58 am: |
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lords: OF COURSE it was a different place where NO ONE knew you...that fits right in with the story right? RIGHT? so sorry i must yell like you to get attention
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shelby
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Username: shelby
Post Number: 17
Registered: 04-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 03:01 am: |
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oh and lords i eat out every day; on odd numbered days i eat at applebees ALWAYS A DIFFERENT LOCATION OF COURSE!!!!!!!!! then on even numbered days i eat at chilis BUT I AM NOT FAT! I AM UNDERWEIGHT!!!!!!!!!! i weigh 21.67483 pounds right now and in 6th grade i weighed 21.736453 pounds so dont call me FAT!!!!!! |
ranjer764
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 09-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 08:05 pm: |
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shelby ,hahahahahaha. Thanks for putting this moron in her place. I wish her "place" was on another planet. |
ranjer764
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Post Number: 302
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oh, and "lords" , you have no knowledge and no authority to advise us on how to earn our money. I CLEARED over $25,000 last year after taxes. How much did you say you earned? And ... oh yeah ... how much income are you bringing home now? |
crabbycabbie
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Post Number: 31
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 04:17 am: |
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ranjer764
On some days I had almost 50% "personals"(calls for a ride where they ask specifically for ME...even if they had to wait a while)...they seem to like my stories...I doubt I'll ever run out of material(I think I'm a weirdo magnet)...there was one New Year's Eve where I think If I felt like it I could write an entire book about what happened on just that one night
BTW ALL my stories are of things that happened to ME...us drivers often got together and shared stories(some of those stories none of you guys would believe) but I don't tell those stories(one female driver had a drunk man get in her cab with a eight foot long python...he fell asleep in the backseat and the python decided to say hello to the driver) but that's HER story and I don't tell it |
whateveryouwant
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 07-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 08:34 am: |
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crabbycabbie:
I love your cabbie stories. I am a little taxicab phobic and you make me feel friendly towards cabbie drivers again. Have you ever thought about putting all your stories together in a book? |
ranjer764
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 09-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 06:51 pm: |
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I think that's a great idea ... Cabbie Chronicles. It would make a great read, and I would buy a copy Keep em' coming, cabbie.
Incidentally, whatcha doin now? Just curious. You may have already mentioned, but please refresh, ok? |
crabbycabbie
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whateveryouwant
Thanks
I started a thread that might make you a bit more paranoid about cabbies again...they all aren't as sweet as me
: )~ |
crabbycabbie
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Crap!
I started a VERY long thread about what NOT to do when getting a cab with lots of stories and it disappeared!
Did i violate some rule here or just mess something up?
Whoever runs this board can you find it or is it gone forever?
Oh and ranjer I now sell things online...as a kid I went to a million auctions(real life auctions) and bought up all the old comics and old books and magazines I could find...I now have a three bedroom apartment with one room completely full of all the stuff I collected...I also go to auctions to get more but just from what's in my apartment now I could live on for the next ten years(and live VERY well) selling only those things
At first when I began I'd ask anyone who bought from me what they collected and what they really wanted to find and when I go to auctions I mostly just buy those things since I already have a buyer for them...besides paper materials I also sell old records and I've been thinking of getting into gold coins since for some reason in my area you can buy them very cheaply and they almost always sell very high online(we're talking 10X the buy price...don't ask me why)
Anyway I'm doing this because the only two non farm jobs I ever had I got ripped off doing them...I figure if I'm gonna work for a bastard of a boss it might as well be me |
ranjer764
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crabbycabbie ... you have the most fun job ever. I truly envy you. I admire your foresight and vision. We have a few things around, not sure of their value, but they're valuable to us. |
jammie
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meeulk, I'm coming in late on this one, but here goes.
Looking neat and put together helps too. A server just looks more appealing when they are all ironed and not dishevelled. Even in non fine dining establishments. Who wants a server with last weeks special on their apron? Being kind helpful and easy going is a nice touch to make the guest feel relaxed. |
roxy77
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Remember your customers. Introduce yourself, try to get their names, use their names, remember their names. Every time they come in, they will tip you a little better. You'll definitely be making significantly more money per shift after 4 months and good tippers will request you.
Never say no. If you can possibly avoid it- do not say no. I worked the bar at a four star restaurant in a casino. One patron asked for "munchies", which we don't have. I asked the other bartender to cover the bar, went downstairs and across the casino to the employee lounge and got them a bag of chips from the vending machine. They were wowed- and so were the 10 customers that witnessed it.
Care that they have a good time. Obnoxious customers give you more opportunity to impress than easy customers. Not only is there more of a chance to fulfill their extra requests, but these people are most likely to be accustomed to impatient servers. Even if you want to stab them, be kind. You can't guess who's going to tip well. Not by dress, by race, by age, or by demeanor. Even if you have a 70% accuracy rate in your guessing- prejudging a customer is disastrous.
Don't hide from mistakes. If they're your mistakes, fess up. If they're the kitchen's, try to take the blame. Never pass the buck- it looks awful. If the food is taking forever, try not to hide in the kitchen. Approach the table before they approach you. Communicate with them. Buy them a drink if you can.
Get their first round as fast you possibly, possibly can. If you blow it here, you're going to be making up for it for the rest of the meal. The first drink is critical.
Check back for satisfaction and show your face as often as possible, lest your table ends up sneaking tips to your busboy instead of you.
If you get stiffed or get a crummy tip- suck it up. Chances are you're getting enough generous tips to even it out and it's really demeaning to have to argue for your tip. It's wildly unprofessional as well as demeaning. Let it go. It might even be a mistake. Don't assume that they'll stiff you again, next time. Always give phenomenal service. |
bikerbitch
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 03:16 pm: |
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Lords, why do you even bother to eat out? It must be an extremely stressful situation for you. It should be a time to enjoy the company that you are with. To enjoy a nice meal.
Life can be stressful enough, why do you worry so much about silly things? There are people who have lived through devastation and lost everything. And you freak out because a server didn't bring you a condiment? And, you check your watch to the minute to see what time you get your food???
There are people that weren't able to eat or drink what they wanted for days, even weeks. What a lucky person you must be, unfortunately you are too selfish to know it.
God forbid, you don't have a real tragedy to deal with someday. I don't think you will be strong enough to handle it. I feel very sorry for you. |
lords_of_acid
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 11:19 pm: |
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bikerbitch
"To enjoy a nice meal."
HOW do you ENJOY your meal if it's REALLY messed up? I know I CAN'T. I get pretty pissed if there are a LOT of mistakes. If it's like 1 missing side of ranch, that's not going to make me really mad, it's things like a WHOLE lot of mistakes or a completely wrong entree that gets me really mad. It also gets me mad if the person doesn't have the decency to at least say "Sorry." I just don't get that, as if they don't care about their income you know. I couldn't fathom not apologizing for a mistake, just to be NICE, even if it wouldn't be my fault.
"Life can be stressful enough, why do you worry so much about silly things?"
It may be silly to you, but it's NOT your food, so OF COURSE you think it's silly. It's NOT YOU that has to wait longer because the server pressed the WRONG button so you can't eat with your guest.
"And, you check your watch to the minute to see what time you get your food???"
NOT everytime, but sometimes I do. I want to know HOW to tip. I want to know WHY my stuff is taking longer than necessary, is it because of the cooks, is it because it's busy, and is it because the server decided to buss a table and go to 2 tables before putting my order in? I want to know WHAT KIND of tip they deserve? Like if a bartender that stops to chit-chat BEFORE making a mixed drink that someone ordered. I don't respect people that make "PLAYTIME" before their job. I NEVER treated people like that. When a customer came into the donut shop, if I was talking, I'd INTERRUPT the conversation by saying "HOLD THAT THOUGHT." I would put the CUSTOMER first, which was my JOB. That is how it SHOULD be, not to make a customer wait, because I know I don't want to wait when I'm the customer. I treated others as I had like to be treated when I am the customer. Sometimes I'd be able to talk and work at the SAME TIME because I had to put together donut boxes. So, that is the times when I'd talk. Selling products was MY job, NOT to play around. If I was cleaning, sometimes I'd have time to talk to. Sometimes, there wasn't something to do every second, but I did put the SALES of the store FIRST, NOT chit-chatting. |
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lords, you would have flipped if you at my bar wed night. We were soo busy, one of the busiest flying says of the year. We had em 3 deep at the bar. I would grab 3 orders at the same time, and make all 3 at the same time. I really didn't know who got there first, or third. I ran my butt off and did the best I could. None of my guests complained or got mad. Plus I had people already sitting, when they needed a drink I fit them in the mix.I know you wont agree, but if I can make 3 or 4 drinks at the same time it does save time. I had about 6 people drinking grey goose vodka, the bottle is in the center well. Which means its not right in front of me I have to take about 8 steps to get it. So I may as well get all of my goose drinkers in one swoop. They saw me running like a lunatic. |
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jammie
If you made 6 drinks, then you made the first customer wait longer to make all 6 drinks, think about how UNFAIR that really is? So did the second, third, fourth, and fifth people waited LONGER for their drinks. Why you didn't just bring the vodka to whereever you were instead of walking 8 steps? It's not like a coke dispenser where you can't move that, you CAN move a bottle of vodka. The only way I can see that you can't is if it's connected to something, but that's it.
"I really didn't know who got there first."
I would have ASKED, because one time at the donut shop I was doing drive-thru by myself because I was working from 2p.m.-10p.m. which was always by myself. Anyway, 2 sets of groups came in. I went to the closest ones that were sitting at the counter, the other people were sitting at the booth. This lady at the booth said "We were FIRST", just like that. I told her I was sorry, but that I didn't know "WHO" came in first. Anyway, I truly SHOULD HAVE ASKED FIRST *WHO* came in first. So, WHY didn't you ask first before getting people's orders, just out of curiosity?
"I can make 3 or 4 drinks at the same time it does save time."
It DOESN'T save the first, second, or third's customers time that may have been first, second, or third. Think about it, if Jane Doe is first, which orders a white russian with grey goose vodka. Joe Smoe orders the same. So does John Doe. So does Jack Doe. The first person that got there could have their drink made FASTER if you only concentrate on *THEIRS*. If you make all 4 people wait to make all the drinks, then hand them their drinks, is that really fair to the first 3 people. It's quicker in the grand scheme of things for you, but NOT for the *INDIVIDUAL* customer's wait.
Think about it, when you are at a fast food place, would it make sense to get the first person's money to ring up a coke(which is all they ordered), but then instead of getting their coke, the person decides to take the second person's order before getting your (1) coke? They end up getting the second person's coke at the SAME time, meanwhile you are standing there WAITING for the second people to order and pay. Do you understand that the RIGHT thing to do is to go in order? |
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I had resolved to never in this lifetime respond agsin to any post from Lords. But...here I go.
Lords, given your fixed idea about going in order at all times I'm just curious how you personally would deal with the following:
Busy week-end night and I'm seated with a party of eight. As they are still adjusting themselves I am sat with a party of two. This is just one of the many occassions when, as a server in a full service establishment it just does not make sense to "go in order"
I introduce myself to the larger party who was sat first, invite them to look over the drink selections and let them know I will be back in just a moment. I will then take the order from the two top, put their food order in the kitchen and deliver their drinks. This generally takes about three mins.
I am then free to spend as much time as the larger party requires. Yes, I have gone "out of order" but the result is always two happy tables.
If you stop to think about it for a min. you might see that there are times when going "in order" makes sense, and other instances where it just does not apply. |
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"I would have ASKED, because one time at the donut shop I was doing drive-thru by myself because I was working from 2p.m.-10p.m. which was always by myself. Anyway, 2 sets of groups came in. I went to the closest ones that were sitting at the counter, the other people were sitting at the booth. This lady at the booth said "We were FIRST", just like that".
Yes, some people are RUDE like that.
Doesn't make it right. |
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lords, it was a complete freak show. The people were 3 deep at the bar, since at no time role call and attendance was taken. The customers didn't know who got there first either. I never made 6 drinks at once, maybe I didn't explain that well, there were 6 people drinking the same kind of vodka, at the same time. I had to put the bottle back after I used it because the other bar tender may have needed it also.
Sorry that's just the way it is in grown up land at a packed bar. Too bad if they had to wait for another minute or so. I have never encountered anybody that has been so upset about waiting for a few seconds or minutes. This was not an orderly situation, I had people standing all over the place trying to flag me down, there was not a line, or numbering system. If I were to ask who was here first everybody would have insisted that they were there first.Besides wouldnt that have taken away precious drink making time to figure who was there first? |
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I went to Chili's for the first time in 20 years tonight and it was gross. It will be another 20 years before I go back. It was a really cheap meal if you like to eat that sort of food.
I ordered the steak fajitas and the food runner forgot the tortillas. When the waiter came back and I asked for the tortillas he was mortified and apologized all over the place! All I could think of was how pleased Lords would have been. If I'd bent over I swear he would have kissed my butt. It really wasn't that big of a deal.
It was pathetic. He had this fake smile and demeanor during the whole meal. Pleasant as hell, just totally fake. This is why I choose not to dine in chain restaurants. I dont' want to be waited on by a robot. This waiter actually seemed scared to displease us. That's just not right IMHO. We left a 20% sympathy tip.
He pissed me off at one point though, when he asked us if we wanted food boxed up to go while I was still eating and then he brought the check before asking if we wanted anything else. I got over it. Life's too short. |
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big momma:
Sounds like you got either a bad waiter whose already been told one more guest complaint and he's out, or a really new, half trained one. For some reason I've never been to a Chilli's in my life. Glad to hear I haven't missed anything. |
lords_of_acid
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whateveryouwant
You HAVE gone in order as far as greeting. I would have tried to get the party of 8's drink order. If they said they needed more time, then I'd go to the party of 2 to get their drink order and bring them their drinks. I'd say "I'll be right back" and go to the party of 8 to get their drink order. I would go get 8 drinks and bring them their drinks. Then I'd say I'd be right back and go get the party of 2's order and put it into the computer. Then I'd go get the party of 8's drink order as well as their drinks.
Even if the situation was that the party of 8 ordered their drinks when you greeted them, it's just ONLY FAIR. Let's say my husband and I are at the table for 2. If they came in first, then WHY should those 8 people WAIT LONGER for their drinks when *THEY* were seated FIRST? I have had one time where I had waited around 8 minutes or so for the waiter to arrive one time at Chilis. He apologized and said he had a party of 7, so that was why we were waiting so long. Anyway, I totally understood that. He even was the waiter that brought me a diet coke instead of a dr. pepper that I had ordered. He said he was sorry about that. I gave him 19% tip that time. You want to know why? It's because he apologized for the LONG wait that we had before we were greeted and that he said he was sorry for the wrong soft drink as well as EVERYTHING else was right. My point is, he did what was RIGHT. He finished with them FIRST BEFORE coming to us. It was NICE that he said he was SORRY. I can COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND when a HUGE PARTY can take up a WHOLE LOT of time. Especially if they were seated FIRST.
I just don't think it's fair if the party of 8 has to wait LONGER to get their drinks, because *THEY were SEATED BEFORE the party of 2. I think you should ALWAYS go in order unless it is a pizza delivery, because that is DIFFERENT because of traffic, accidents, weather, and stalled vehicles. Also, if a person delivers a pizza at one house that is by another, it really doesn't make sense to go 2 miles back just to go in order, where as with a few steps back in a restaurant DOESN'T COST MONEY or MILEAGE like pizza delivery does. The steps in a restaurant doesn't depend on the weather or traffic either, so that is the ONLY TIME I see that SAVING STEPS which WOULD be going OUT of order would work the BEST. In a sit-down type of restaurant WOULDN'T be, because that table that has 8 people are TRUTHFULLY WAITING LONGER for their drinks for NO REAL REASON. If they arrived FIRST, they should get served FIRST. Think of the 8 INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMERS that are WAITING PATIENTLY for their drinks. I say DON'T seat the party of 2 right away if a big party is seated. This way, the customers WON'T see a HUGE DELAY as far as how LONG they were seated BEFORE they got GREETED.
It's just NOT RIGHT that the 8 people have to wait LONGER for their drinks as well as their food if they order RIGHT when you greet them. If they arrived FIRST, whether or NOT they are a HUGE party, you SHOULDN'T make the party of 2 *MORE IMPORTANT* than the party of 8, when they AREN'T. That seems to be what you ARE DOING. Treat EVERYONE as EQUALS, meaning if Joe Smoe with party of 8 arrives FIRST, attempt to get their drink order FIRST. That is ONLY FAIR! Just because a party of 2 got seated next doesn't give you the right to make the party of 2 first, when they came in *AFTER* the party of 8. Think of all those *8* people that are waiting for their drinks LONGER than they SHOULD be, because they were seated BEFORE the party of 2 did. |
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Lords, I am in no way going to make a negative comment about your response because I did ask you. I think that what you don't understand, and I promise I am not being sarcastic here, is time management as it applies in a restaurant.
The example you gave above is exactly the reason I am going to get a quick drink order from a 1 or 2 top before a large party. I am not going to have a table sit there without a greeting or drinks for 8 mins. That is unacceptable.
The example I gave was an actual situation I usually have on any given week-end. The other part of that is that I also generally have at least 4 other tables in various states of "neediness" at the same time.
Try to picture this. You are a server. You have six tables. Table one has just ordered dessert, table two is about 2 mins. away from needing refills, table three is ready for the check, table four is ready to be prebused and checked for dessert orders and tables five and six have just been double sat.
A server who tried to "go in order" would quickly become overwhelmed and none of the tables, except maybe the first table of the night, would end up satisfied. It's not about one table being "more important" than another. It's not about being "fair". It's not about "caring". My job as a server is to meet guests' needs in the most efficient manner possible. Going in order is just not efficient.
I am not saying this just to disagree with you. I have been a server not nearly six years. I have worked in a variety of restaurants. I am very good at what I do. I train both new servers and MITs. I'm simply telling you a fact: good servers don't "go in order" because it's poor time management.
Why not accept that and take it off the list you use to judge (and tip) your server?
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Is Joe Smoe related to Jane Doe?
How about if they got married Jane Doe-Smoe? |
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lords wrote:
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Based on this thread, I've come to the conclusion that if Lords had to use an elevator in any building with more than 2 floors, she'd have a stroke.
"WHAT? The ELEVATOR stopped at the 4th floor BEFORE picking ME up in the lobby? I pushed the button FIRST! That's so RUDE and UNFAIR!"
"Elevators should pick people up ONLY in the order the call button is PUSHED! It's the only FAIR way!"
(At this point, blood spurts from both eyes, Lords falls to the floor)
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lords_of_acid
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"A server who tried to "go in order" would quickly become overwhelmed and none of the tables, except maybe the first table of the night, would end up satisfied."
That's NOT true that only the first table would be satisfied. Let's say that table 1 ordered their dessert first, which I went to put into the computer. Since table 2 didn't actually "REQUEST" anything, I would do ANY "REQUEST" FIRST. So table 2 gets to wait until the request on done. Table 3 states they are ready for their check as I pass by. So I take it out of my apron to give it to them. Then I'd go to table 2 to ask if they would like refills, which I would go get. I would go to table 3 to ring up the bill. I would bring table 1 their dessert. Then I'd go to table 4 to ask if they would like a dessert. Table 4 does want a dessert so I'd go put the order in. Then I would ask the hostess "WHO got seated FIRST?", as far as table's 5 and 6. Then proceed to WHICHEVER table got seated FIRST to get their drink order, which was table 5. I would go put into the computer and go get the drinks if they are something like soft drinks or tea. If they are something such as mixed drinks that take a while, I wouldn't go get them because the bartender needs to have time to make the drinks. Let's say table 5 gets 2 cokes. When I would arrive with the 2 cokes, right away I'd say "I'll be right back." A food runner brought table 4's dessert. I go to ask if table 1 wants anything else, they say no, so I give them the check. I'd go and check on table 2, which wants their check and no dessert. So I'd go give table 2 their check. I'd check on table 1 to ring their bill up. I'd go get table 6's drink order and put it in. They happen to order three iced teas. So when I go to their table I say "I'll be right back." I'd go to table 5 to get their food order and put it into the computer. I'd go to table 2 to ring up their bill. Then I'd go to table 6 to get their food order and put their food order in.
See in this example, table 6 SHOULD wait LONGER because they were LAST. Table 5 waited a little while longer than some of the other tables, but I couldn't IGNORE the other tables, which were table's 1-4 considering they were there BEFORE tables 5 and 6.
"It's not about one table being "more important" than another."
I feel in your example of the party of 8 vs. the party of 2, that's if they would have ordered drinks when you greeted them, that you DID make the party of 2 MORE IMPORTANT than the larger party that came in BEFORE they did. That's NOT fair that the party of 8 waits 6 minutes for drinks instead of 3. It's just NOT.
Think of my REAL LIFE scenario at Outback that I posted about a while back. I know I have told this story already, but I would like to get my point across. The waiter was triple sat. We got seated at 5:00p.m. exactly. He greeted us within 3 minutes as he takes our drink orders which are a coke and a diet coke. He went to the next table to get 4 or 5 people's drink orders at the next table across from us. Then he proceeded to a third table, which I am NOT sure how many people were at that table. Anyway, by the time we got our ONLY 2 cokes, it was 5:10p.m. He also had the audacity to hand a drink to a lady that was at the SECOND table across from us, then handed us both ours. He distributed all the drinks, then came to get our food order. Honestly, if he would have gone in order instead of treating us like we were one big party, we would have got our cokes like at 5:06p.m. at the LATEST. It doesn't take 7 whole minutes to get 2 soft drinks. The only ways I could see waiting 7 minutes is that if a person did go in order, but the soft drink syrup happen to run out or if a table's order was done, which they would have ordered BEFORE us, and there was no food runner to be found to bring the food. That is the ONLY scenarios that could make 2 people wait 7 minutes for 2 cokes. We didn't even order alcohol, JUST cokes. If he would have gone in order, we wouldn't have had to wait for him to get approximately 9 or 10 drink orders as well as the TIME it is to fill 9 or 10 drinks, vs. only 2 drinks. It DOES take more time to fill 9 or 10 drinks, than only 2. I really didn't like that he handed the lady at the table across from us hers BEFORE ours. That REALLY IRKED me. It's not even the amount of seconds that it was delayed by him doing that, it was more the actual act of not doing things in the order that they come in. Let's say if I go to McDonald's that doesn't have a self serve soft drink dispenser and I am second in line. The first person orders 2 cokes ONLY. The second person(which is me) orders only 1 coke. Is it really fair that the cashier got all 3 cokes at once, but hands me mine first? NO, it's NOT. I think that's pretty darn RUDE to the first person if you ask me. I am NOT even counting the act of paying for the drinks. I am ONLY talking about filling the coke orders. I understand that the soft drink dispensers are FURTHER to walk to, but still, if we were the FIRST table to be seated, we should NOT have had to wait 10 minutes from the time we were seated to get ONLY 2 cokes. That's just RIDICULOUS!
Also, like what I posted about what happened at a restaurant bar a few weekends ago. I sat at the bar. The bartender came up to me and I told her "A margarita with salt made with Jose Cuervo tequila." Anyway, she proceeds to START to make the drink by putting salt on the glass and filled the glass with ice, but then she INTERRUPTS finishing my drink for this other person that orders 4 beers. I had to wait for her to make 2 bend overs(which the refrigerator wasn't far is what I am saying) to not only get 2 beers and open them, then she got 2 more beers and opened them. Then, she proceeded to finish my margarita. By the time she finished with that I would have already had my margarita in front of me, but NO, she, for some reason, went out of order. I understand it takes less time to get 4 beers and open them than that make my margarita. I shouldn't have had to wait for her to bend down twice to get beers and open them. That's just DISRESPECTFUL. If I would have been the bartender, I would have made the drink to it's ENTIRETY, THEN, got the beers. I wouldn't have made the first person wait longer just because the drink takes longer. It's just not fair that I had to wait longer for someone that ordered AFTER me and my glass of ice was just SITTING waiting for a margarita in it. She got NO tip for that $5.00 margarita for going out of order and making me wait LONGER when I was BEFORE that person was. Bartending is, to me, just like a line at a ticket booth for instance. Who's next is next. If that person would have ordered before me, then I wouldn't have minded waiting because they would have been before me, but they WEREN'T. See the customer that ordered the 4 beers was trying to get another bartender's attention, but that bartender was TOO BUSY chit-chatting with a guy about reading lines on her palm of her hand. The bartender that took my order was already getting a glass with ice and putting salt on the rim on the glass. So, she actually took my order first, because this customer was trying to get that other bartender's attention AFTER I had ordered. So that is when the bartender that was trying to start to make the margarita intervened by getting the 4 beers, 2 at a time.
"Why not accept that and take it off the list you use to judge (and tip) your server?"
Because it's just UNFAIR to go out of order. We shouldn't have had to wait for 7 minutes for only 2 cokes because the waiter wants not to have to walk back and forth more. The waiter SHOULDN'T have handed the lady her's at that second table before ours. That's just WRONG.
I have posted this website reference before, but I will do it again to make my point.
http://www.restaurantdoctor.com/books/basics.html
"Not providing service in the order of arrival
People become territorial. They expect that if they arrived first, they should be served before parties arriving or seated after them. It is not an unreasonable expectation."
It really ISN'T UNREASONABLE to want to be served in the order you have been seated. To have a BOOK about it, should say that I am NOT the ONLY person that feels this way. I even mentioned on another posts recently about the lady at the donut shop that was seated at the booth with a man. The lady told me "We're we first." If NOONE felt the way I do, she wouldn't have said that to me. It did hurt my feelings, but I did DESERVE it for not asking who came in first. I happen to be dealing with drive-thru so I didn't see which party came in first. Was it the man and some kids at the counter or was it the lady and man at the booth? Obviously, I picked WRONG and got chewed out for it DESERVABLE. I had asked who was first after that incident and I usually did before that even, but I made a fast decision, which was wrong. That was just stupid on my part not to ask who was first. |
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"Think of my REAL LIFE scenario at Outback that I posted about a while back. I know I have told this story already, but I would like to get my point across. The waiter was triple sat. We got seated at 5:00p.m. exactly. He greeted us within 3 minutes as he takes our drink orders which are a coke and a diet coke. He went to the next table to get 4 or 5 people's drink orders at the next table across from us. Then he proceeded to a third table, which I am NOT sure how many people were at that table. Anyway, by the time we got our ONLY 2 cokes, it was 5:10p.m. He also had the audacity to hand a drink to a lady that was at the SECOND table across from us, then handed us both ours. He distributed all the drinks, then came to get our food order. Honestly, if he would have gone in order instead of treating us like we were one big party, we would have got our cokes like at 5:06p.m. at the LATEST"
Unfortunately, you wouldn't have gotten your order taken until minutes later than what actually occured. After all, according to your "go in order" deal, he would have had to take a drink order at the second table, make a SECOND trip to get drinks (this takes an extra minute or two), and then repeat the process A THIRD TIME before he was able to get back to you. You've now lost 3 to 5 minutes, rather than letting the server CONSOLIDATE steps and get all of the drinks at one time. The fact that he handed a drink to someone else first only cost you about 30 seconds MAX (well that and hurt feelings).
Oh yeah, it must have been UNBEARABLE to spend 4 extra minutes with your husband without a drink in your hand :chuckle:. |
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"Also, like what I posted about what happened at a restaurant bar a few weekends ago. I sat at the bar. The bartender came up to me and I told her "A margarita with salt made with Jose Cuervo tequila." Anyway, she proceeds to START to make the drink by putting salt on the glass and filled the glass with ice, but then she INTERRUPTS finishing my drink for this other person that orders 4 beers"
That table was OBVIOUSLY seated before you (since it took time for that person to get greeted and the order taken and you had just sat down). Therefore, you should have gone SECOND, according to your bizarre rules of service.
You lose.
Again.
I can't believe that you STIFFED her for that. Oh wait, yes I can.
I hope that that bartender remembers you as a NO TIPPING slimeball the next time you go there. YOU'll definitely get the service that you deserve! |
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""Also, like what I posted about what happened at a restaurant bar a few weekends ago. I sat at the bar. The bartender came up to me and I told her "A margarita with salt made with Jose Cuervo tequila." Anyway, she proceeds to START to make the drink by putting salt on the glass and filled the glass with ice, but then she INTERRUPTS finishing my drink for this other person that orders 4 beers"
That table was OBVIOUSLY seated before you (since it took time for that person to get greeted and the order taken and you had just sat down). Therefore, you should have gone SECOND, according to your bizarre rules of service.
You lose.
Again".
Sorry, I misread your post. I thought that it was a waitress that ordered the 4 beers.
I still can't believe that you completely stiffed her. |
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teleburst
You STILL DIDN'T read my posts correctly. I was at a restaurant *BAR* meaning I ONLY ordered ONE margarita from the BARTENDER. There was NO WAITRESS INVOLVED. So NONE of your statements about getting seated make ANY SENSE when I seated MYSELF, DUH! |
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Lords you apparently don't have the sense that the Good Lord gave you. Maybe momma dropped you on your head as a child. I don't know, but it's obvious you don't have much sense.
All of the people on the many boards you troll have tried to reason with you but with you it all comes down to "me me me, serve me and do it in order". Of course it's never occurred to you that the majority could be right and you could be wrong. Not much sense there.
A good bartender can make 6 drinks in less than 60 seconds and pop the tops off of four beers in less than 15 seconds. Yet you think that these people should wait "in order" while the bartender makes your stupid and more time-intensive drink? Deal with it, it's called efficiency.
I'm thinking the cool kids in school cut Lords in line at the cafeteria and the world will pay for it forever.
Girl, life doesn't work that way and the sooner you accept it the better your life will be. Servers (and everyone else in this world) have to work as expediently as possible, to serve as many people as possible in any given time.
Given time and maturity you might come to accept the fact that you aren't the star the moment you walk into a situation where somebody has to serve you. Maybe you won't too, and that's where you should probably accept that standing in line and ordering McDonalds provides the least chance of you getting your tiny feelings hurt.
Actually, just start doing that or ordering at drive-thru's. Spare some servers the misery of dealing with the likes of you. |
lords_of_acid
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teleburst
I even stated in my post "I sat AT THE BAR."
"You've now lost 3 to 5 minutes, rather than letting the server CONSOLIDATE steps and get all of the drinks at one time."
Actually our drinks would have came let's say at 5:05, the second table's drinks at 5:08, and the third table's drinks at 5:11. So, when he would have come back to me for our food order, it was still the SAME amount of time that he took to go get all the drinks at once. The difference is that our drinks would have been at our table MUCH SOONER. Also, our food order would have been in the computer a LOT SOONER to be on the list in the kitchen to start cooking ours, but instead he took the 2 other table's food orders, which DELAYED us from getting our food just that MUCH QUICKER. Maybe even more quicker than what you think because let's say another server gets to the computer BEFORE my waiter does, but has the SAME EXACT ORDER to put in. The waiter that has the other table will get theirs FIRST because my waiter is WAITING to put in the order into the computer because he wants to get ALL 3 orders, one after the other, and THEN put the order in, DELAYING our food. |
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I need a tax writeoff this year. Maybe I'll fund Lords to open her own "Serving 101" night course in her local community college. |
lords_of_acid
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big_momma
"Of course it's never occurred to you that the majority could be right and you could be wrong."
http://www.restaurantdoctor.com/books/basics.html
HOW come they have a BOOK about the SAME thing I am GRIPING about? They have in this book:
"Not providing service in the order of arrival
People become territorial. They expect that if they arrived first, they should be served before parties arriving or seated after them. It is not an unreasonable expectation."
Obviously, the MAJORITY of customers feel the WAY I DO. Honestly, WHO really wants to wait LONGER for ANYTHING? Sure maybe some people don't really care about a wait, but MOST people in general DO. You KNOW this is the TRUTH, otherwise WHY would you hear about time complaints in restaurants?
http://www.complaints.com/february2003/complaintoftheday.february26.26.htm
http://www.complaints.com/complaintofthedayoctober192000.1.htm
See, these people complained about HOW LONG they had to wait for things. A WHOLE LOT of people DON'T like WAITING. I so sure you love waiting in line. I absolutely HATE waiting in line or waiting period, just like ANYONE ELSE, but we ALL have to wait at times, but when it's Jane Doe's turn, it's Jane Doe's turn, NOT Joe Smoe's turn. |
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Lords people can write a book about anything, it doesn't make it right or wrong; it's just a book. Many of us could write a book on psychosis just using your postings.
Waiting in line or for anything at all just isn't a great big deal to most normal people. There is real adversity in life and waiting a few minutes extra for anything at all is just not a big deal!
People wait for cancer test results, people wait for cancer to kill a loved one or themselves, people wait for burn scars to heal. Those are the waits that are cause for angst. Waiting for a cola or ranch dressing doesn't compare. Those are the waits that truly matter.
Converse with your husband or people waiting in the area to be seated. Think about the things you have to be thankful for and of all the people that have real problems every day. Ask yourself if a few seconds or minutes waiting for a cola or tartar sauce is worth getting upset about. It's not.
It's life. Life happens and it doesn't always go our way. Life is what you make of it. If you let a few seconds of waiting poison your day, you've poisoned your own day because it's just going to happen. IT'S LIFE!!!!
So last night at Chili's I waited a few minutes for my tortillas. I spent the time eating my food and talking with my family. Tortillas weren't necessary to me actually putting the food in my mouth. No harm, no foul, I still enjoyed myself.
Your experiences in life are what you make of them. You're wasting a lot of energy on a bunch of stupid stuff. You're also insulting the intelligence of a lot of people with your inane drivel. |
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"Obviously, the MAJORITY of customers feel the WAY I DO."
Where did you come up with the fact that the majority of people feel this way? Does the book provide statistics? Or is it just morons that make scenes and pull hissy fits that made "the book"? |
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"eleburst
I even stated in my post "I sat AT THE BAR."
"You've now lost 3 to 5 minutes, rather than letting the server CONSOLIDATE steps and get all of the drinks at one time."
Actually our drinks would have came let's say at 5:05, the second table's drinks at 5:08, and the third table's drinks at 5:11. So, when he would have come back to me for our food order, it was still the SAME amount of time that he took to go get all the drinks at once".
Nope. You forgot about the time it took for the two extra round trips. Plus, that's two more chances that you might have to wait your turn because someone is there already.
"big_momma
"Of course it's never occurred to you that the majority could be right and you could be wrong."
http://www.restaurantdoctor.com/books/basics.html
HOW come they have a BOOK about the SAME thing I am GRIPING about? They have in this book:
"Not providing service in the order of arrival
People become territorial. They expect that if they arrived first, they should be served before parties arriving or seated after them. It is not an unreasonable expectation."
Obviously, the MAJORITY of customers feel the WAY I DO".
No, this one quote doesn't make it "obvious" that the MAJORITY of customers feel the WAY that you DO". I've got far more experience on a day to day level that says that the MAJORITY of people understand the concept of consolidation. I easily wait on over a thousand people a month. Most of those people have already waited 45 minutes to 2 hours just to get to the table. And yet, they don't seem to mind if I have to take care of two or three tables at once. At least their tips don't indicate that, and certainly, nobody has said anything. And if I'm bad at it, they'll penalize me. It DOES happen every once in a while that I get too weeded to give the kind of service that they deserve and that I'm capable of. And yes, they dock my pay.
And frankly, the kind of complaint that you highlight from Complaint.com has little to do with your point. OF COURSE nobody likes to wait 15 minutes to even get greeted. That's what you get for choosing Applebees. It's a crapshoot.
I went to my local bar for lunch today. Had my margerita within two minutes of sitting down. Got my midrare bacon cheddar burger perfectly cooked in front of me in about 4 additional minutes. And it had the mayo that I asked for. $4 on $13. And it was a handmade burger as well...sorry that you don't fare as well at your plastic fake "grill and bar". |
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"Plastic grill and bar". Ha!
At least in the real grills and bars it's all real. You get it served up and it's real food with real servers, not manequins with smiles painted on (not a dis on corporate servers, I swear).
Even Chili's menu was nasty. Nothing appealed but I figured they couldn't mess fajitas up too badly. They had some steaks on special and even the pictures looked unappealing. I looked around and the people eating there were twenty-somethings and apparently it was the hip place to eat in that suburb of Boston. My husband had a chipotle-bleu cheese burger and it was passable, however. The kids' food was kids' food.
I'll stick with the individually owned restaurants and bistros. We don't get out to eat as often as I'd like but I like to support the "little guys", the restauranteurs that make it their life. The service is better and the food is usually outstanding.
I follow word of mouth to find great places to go, and rely on chowhound.com. There's great advice there and I use it for all of New England for advice on restaurants. |
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Ladies, not you Lords, You are a bitch. I am so PROUD to be a fellow server and also a great tipper. I go out to eat where great food and fantastic service is. I go out to enjoy myself and my boyfriend not to find reasons to complain. Lord's you suck. All the way around. You are cold uncaring mean and it sucks that you are unfortunately around after Katrina spreading your venom! Stop worrying about what we do enjoy yourself and be happy you are still alive instead of telling us how we should do things. I don't give a crap if your feelings are hurt because for every one of your kind there are a hundred more that have compassion and feelings for their fellow man. (or server) I think that God didn't save you from the hurricane.... the devil did so you could spew more evil and ignorance! |
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No doubt Pig Lords is out terrorizing a server as we type. After all it's Saturday night, big night out for her at Chilis or Applebees!
Run you, get my 5 sides or you get less than 20% on a $35 tab. Run, RUN, serve me, Lords of Acid.
She's a pathetic waste of space in the world but karma always makes a way. Have no doubt. |
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"Then I'd go to table 2 to ask if they would like refills, which I would go get...... Then I'd go to table 4 to ask if they would like a dessert..... Then I would ask the hostess "WHO got seated FIRST?"
THEN the manager would fire your dumb ass because your section would be in such shambles. Oh my God, forget I asked. What was I thinking?
Those who can, do - those who can't, post about it. |
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Lords! Holy Moley- do you just go out to eat so that you have something to rant about online? I don't know if you've ever worked in a restaurant (besides dunkin donuts) your posts are too long to sift through all of them, but your ideas just don't make sense. It's impossible to do everything in order in a restaurant. You wouldn't have to be fired, you'd end up leaving in tears after about an hour. Any manager will tell you to "work smart" and "save steps" no matter what the atmosphere of the restaurant. It's called time management and it's one of the single most important skills as a server. You may have gotten some lousy service, it happens, but I'm guessing that you're usually so miserable and condescending from the get-go that your server is either immediately rattled or just ceases to care whether or not you're having a good time.
Wanna hear something that's just gonna make you flip? I'll deliberately serve the very last person to arrive at my bar if I know it's just gonna be a beer which means that in about 10 seconds I'll have one less person shouting demands at me. In 12 years I've had nothing but compliments about my speed of service.
I'm new here, but I get the idea that you are happiest when you have something to whine about. Don't pull out a stopwatch to decide if your server deserves a tip- try to have a good time. If you go in expecting problems, there are always going to be problems. And if you have the time to be constantly policing your server, you are in poor company. (And God knows that your poor company is in worse company.)
With your line of thinking, I imagine you'd rate at what Kohlberg calls "Heteronomous Morality", meaning "stick the rules!" It's about where most small children reason. Just another reason why it's usually such a pain in the neck to wait on small children.
Just for kicks, try being nice and see how your service is vastly improved. |
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roxy, we all understand that saving steps means saving time. I would expect the we were here first attitude from a table of preschool children. Really what are we talking about waiting another 1 or 2 minutes for a beverage, or the preparation of the meal. Big deal !! If you are so pressed for time you should go to the drive thru. I go out to relax and enjoy. |
lords_of_acid
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"Do you just go out to eat so that you have something to rant about online?"
NO, I LOVE to go out to drink and eat.
"I don't know if you've ever worked in a restaurant (besides dunkin donuts)."
I DIDN'T work at Dunkin Donuts, EVER. This is NOT a chain donut shop, just a LOCAL one that I worked at.
"I'll deliberately serve the very last person to arrive at my bar if I know it's just gonna be a beer which means that in about 10 seconds I'll have one less person shouting demands at me."
You are being UNFAIR to that FIRST customer. WHY should that FIRST customer have to wait LONGER because you want to be SELFISH about that you don't want another person shouting demands at you? That's pretty darn SELFISH of ONLY thinking of *YOURSELF* ONLY and NOT considering the person's time of the FIRST person that ordered. I would give you a ZERO tip for doing that if I was before someone else and well deserved zero it would be. You can't expect the first person to have to wait LONGER for *YOUR* convenience, HOW WRONG! Think of the *CUSTOMER*, NOT just YOURSELF!
Sometimes it's not even about the few seconds, it's about PRINCIPLE, that if Joe Smoe is first, then Jane Doe shouldn't be served until AFTER Joe Smoe's drink is made, whether Jane Doe only ordered a beer, which she was SECOND, if Joe Smoe ordered a white russian, you should ONLY be making that white russian, that is IT. Then, after you are finished making it and either getting a credit card for a tab or ringing it up, THEN, get the beer for Jane Doe. That is ONLY FAIR to make Jane Doe wait LONGER, when they WERE SECOND.
"In 12 years I've had nothing but compliments about my speed of service."
Right after I left the donut shop years ago, my mother would go there from time to time. Customers still PRAISE me that I actually did my work and served the customers. That I didn't worry about chit-chatting if a customer came in. I have also had a LOT of compliments when I worked there. I remember, right before I got my first raise within a month and a half of working there, I had some customers that told me that I was a hard worker. There was a co-worker that even remembered me because that person works there now. She complimented me recently about that I did my work and kept the place clean, my mother had told me when she went there recently. See, a lot of workers chit-chatted instead of cleaning when there wasn't any customers they were serving. I used my time to do WORK, not to play around. So, you may have gotten some compliments, but so have I. The difference is those people at the bar, may come to chit-chat, so it's not like they care if they get served right away. I don't go to a bar to chit-chat with the people at the bar or the bartender. I go to drink and be with my husband. So, just because a mixed drink takes longer shouldn't mean that the first person that ordered a mixed drink should be waiting longer for a second drink that takes less time. I stiff bartenders when they do that crap. I have plenty of times seen where I'd order a mixed drink and interrupt my drink making to chit-chat or get someone else's 2 beers. They get zero for zero respect. If they are first, then that's different. I hope they don't make them wait for mine if I am second. I honestly don't. I just wait my TURN. Just like when you are in line at a store or when you are in line waiting to pay for tickets to a movie. It's just not right if the first person doesn't get to get their stuff before the second. It's not even like talking about the second person at a fast food place that only orders a soft drink and the first person orders 12 hamburgers. If, let's say, they'd only have one person cooking, fixing drinks, and ringing up. Let's say, then I can see giving the second person their coke WHILE the burgers are cooking. I couldn't see that it would be right to serve the coke before even starting cooking the burgers, that's just wrong.
"Don't pull out a stopwatch to decide if your server deserves a tip- try to have a good time."
A lot of times lately, I haven't looked at the time. I try to have a good time, but sometimes it doesn't turn out that way. Sometimes I don't even think about looking at my watch, other times I do.
jammie
"Really what are we talking about waiting another 1 or 2 minutes for a beverage, or the preparation of the meal. Big deal!"
It's even more about the principle of it, than the time so much. That the bartender doesn't care about my time, only the second person, which wasn't waiting as long. That's just not right.
"If you are so pressed for time you should go to the drive thru. I go out to relax and enjoy."
I try to, but it's hard sometimes when people do that. It hurts my feelings when people act like my time isn't just as important as the second guy that orders a beer, but if I ordered my drink first, then I shouldn't have to wait longer for the second person's order. Out of simple respect, you just shouldn't do that.
I relax when I see the person going in order and not delaying my order to chit-chat or eat, drink, or smoke, then they get tipped well. One time, I was sitting at the bar right in front of the bartender, which this was like 2 a.m. or so at this 24 hour bar. Anyway, they had other customers there that had been served, but I had just seated myself. Anyway, knowing that I am there, he takes a shot of alcohol BEFORE serving me. He got ZERO tip for doing that. The bartender's job is to SERVE the public, not to drink alcohol on the job. He wasted my time for HIS pleasure. I am sitting there RIGHT in front of him to. I can see if the bartender is coughing and they need a glass of water, that's DIFFERENT, but a shot of alcohol, how SELFISH is that bartender, you know? I treat others the way they treat me. If they care about each individual customer's wait, they'd go in order like a line does. Who's next is next. It's just out of respect that you finish making 1 drink, then go to the next customer. It's just not right that I have to see the bartender get and open beers, when I could have my drink faster if I've ordered BEFORE the second person. Also, in nightclubs, I could go to dance, but instead I am waiting to dance for the person's order that was AFTER mine, which is just really UNFAIR. I don't respect people that don't respect me. So at nightclubs, those seconds DO matter because the song is passing more and more as time goes on, so I end up missing part of the song for the SECOND person's beers. That's just RUDE. |
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"One time, I was sitting at the bar right in front of the bartender, which this was like 2 a.m. or so at this 24 hour bar. Anyway, they had other customers there that had been served, but I had just seated myself. Anyway, knowing that I am there, he takes a shot of alcohol BEFORE serving me. He got ZERO tip for doing that. The bartender's job is to SERVE the public, not to drink alcohol on the job. He wasted my time for HIS pleasure. I am sitting there RIGHT in front of him to. I can see if the bartender is coughing and they need a glass of water, that's DIFFERENT, but a shot of alcohol, how SELFISH is that bartender, you know?"
How selfish is HE? How selfish are YOU is the real question? It takes like 5 seconds at most to drink a shot. And you don't know if a customer bought it for him or not and wanted him to take it. You don't know what was going on. All you know is that you had to wait 5 seconds longer. I can't believe you capitalized SERVE like that. They're not your personal slaves. Stop treating them like that! |
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"They're not your personal slaves. Stop treating them like that!"
What ever happen to EARNING your PAY? Whatever happen to CUSTOMERS COME FIRST? THEY are suppose to SERVE the public. They are NOT suppose to be "PLAYING" on the job. A job is *WORK*, meaning SERVE people for PAYMENT. TIPS, I have heard means "To Insure Proper Service", TIPS. How SELFISH are YOU to make a customer that is PAYING WAIT to *PLAY* basically? What kind of person are you that you think that workers should get paid to PLAY if there is actually WORK to do? They are at WORK. They shouldn't be taking ANY SHOTS to begin with. That could lead to mistakes, because a person that is drinking alcohol isn't as coordinated as when they are sober. You KNOW that is the TRUTH!
I didn't treat the guy ANY differently besides what I gave him as his tip, which was ZERO for thinking ONLY of *HIMSELF*, not about the customers. Tips are for GOOD service, that was NOT GOOD service to make me wait ANY TIME for a shot of alcohol.
"And you don't know if a customer bought it for him or not and wanted him to take it."
WHY in the HELL should I give a care if someone bought it for him? It's NONE of my business. If he cared about his tip and the customer's wait, he would have WAITED to take that shot. You put *PLAYING* ahead of work, ZERO tip is what you get, plain and simple.
"How selfish are YOU is the real question?"
HOW could I be selfish when I am the CUSTOMER, meaning, I SHOULDN'T have to WAIT for him to do something that is NOT NECESSARY. Going to the bathroom is NECESSARY for a person's HEALTH, which I can understand that, but NOT drinking alcohol on the job.
Just like when a bartender is chit-chatting with a customer. When I saw a customer come into the donut shop, I IMMEDIATELY STOPPED talking to the person by saying "Hold that thought" or if I was eating something or drinking some coke(which we didn't get breaks and smokers got their breaks outside, but I didn't take breaks like they did for smoking, so I ate sometimes on the job if I had time) I would STOP eating, which I would get up if I was sitting down and serve the customer. I would NOT continue to eat, which is PLAYING on the job. Sure, you may say I was playing by eating, but it's not fair if the smokers got to take breaks, but because I didn't smoke, I didn't get ANY breaks. Also, by me telling you this, I am stating that I put the *CUSTOMER* AHEAD of *MY* food that I was eating or the drink that I was drinking. Think about it, if one of the counter help girls went smoke twice, that's about 10 minutes that they could have been WORKING, so it's ONLY FAIR if EVERYONE gets some type of break. I took mine as eating sometimes when it was slow. Sometimes, if it was too busy, my food got cold and I just didn't get to eat. One time, on New Years eve, I worked 2p.m.-10p.m. I didn't have the TIME to eat because I was serving customers, restocking, and cleaning, which was DOING MY JOB. *ONLY* if I had time did I eat and drink a soft drink on the job. Meaning, if I had customers, I put *THEM* first BEFORE my own hunger. I ended up eating at a burger king drive-thru because the inside was closed because I didn't get off work until I counted the money in the register, which was called "z-out." I had to balance the register, which usually made me get off of work 10-15 or more minutes LATER than 10p.m. I would have LOVED to eat that night, because I had woke up late that morning, so I ate a late breakfast, but no lunch. My point is, I suffered with some hunger, just to do MY JOB, which was SERVE the public. The bartender wasn't suffering if he didn't get an alcoholic drink unless he was an alcoholic, but even then, it still is putting HIS OWN NEEDS in front of a paying customer, which is WRONG! The bartender was putting HIS OWN WANTS BEFORE the customer, so I treated him the way he treated me, which was SECOND to his OWN wants. He didn't even NEED to drink that. So WHAT if someone bought it for him. That has NOTHING to do with making a customer WAIT LONGER for NO REAL REASON. It's not like he was serving someone else, then I would wait my turn, but he was getting ready to down a shot, then he took the shot in front of me, KNOWING I was WAITING to order. That is WRONG and VERY SELFISH. I NEVER put eating or drinking before a customer. I even tipped a bartender at a bowling alley one time for my drink, which I had to wait for her to come to the bar, because I saw that she left the bathroom. That is a REAL REASON. If a person has to go to the bathroom, that I can UNDERSTAND, but to drink alcohol, which is NOT something that people have to do for their HEALTH, then I don't feel sympathy for the person that puts alcohol BEFORE the customer. HOW RUDE of that bartender! You are a REAL PIECE of work to PRAISE *PLAYING* on the job. I NEVER treated people like my meal or snack were MORE IMPORTANT than the customers. I treated them as GOLD. They were PAYING CUSTOMERS and that was MY JOB to SERVE THEM.
"It takes like 5 seconds at most to drink a shot."
So, what, he was SUPPOSE to be *WORKING* considering they had some work to do, which was serve me. If there was no work, then I can see playing being ok, but if customers are waiting, that is just SELFISH to make the customers wait to drink alcohol.
"You don't know what was going on."
I have EYES, I saw EVERYTHING. I wasn't born under a rock. I saw that he took a shot at the same time as a customer. That is NOT doing his job by attempting to get a CUSTOMER'S order, which that was his JOB, so therefore he DESERVED the ZERO tip he got for being SO SELFISH of his own *WANTS*, NOT NEEDS. It's not like a bathroom run, it's alcohol of all things.
"I can't believe you capitalized SERVE like that."
WHY, that was *HIS JOB*, which was to serve the PUBLIC? He was getting paid to SERVE the public, NOT to take shots if they actually had some work for him to do. He WASN'T DOING HIS JOB when there WAS a customer WAITING to be served. It's not like he didn't have anything to do. If there was nothing to do, then playing is ok if there really isn't ANYTHING to do, but when a customer comes in, STOP CLEANING, STOP CHIT-CHATTING, STOP SMOKING, STOP DRINKING, and STOP EATING. The *CUSTOMER* is the way he makes tips, so if I tipped him for this, he'd make me wait again. I don't tip people who treat me like I'm NOONE. I am a PERSON, I deserve to have a chance to get served in a timely manner, just as ANYONE ELSE in this world. Sure, ANY business has a right to choose not to serve me by law, but there is NO REASON to put something such as a WANT over his job. That's just NOT RIGHT. If I would have been his boss, I would have reprimanded him for putting a customer's needs LAST. CUSTOMER'S COME FIRST! I seriously doubt you like waiting for things longer than you have to. If you don't mind, you are one of the FEW people in the world that like lines. MOST people don't like to wait in lines or wait for a table at a restaurant. Even if it was 10 seconds worth, that is still WRONG of him! I didn't finish eating my food sometimes even. Some customers even told me, "You don't have to get up" if I was eating, I told them "Don't worry about it, that customers come first." I'd sometimes eat luke warm to cold food sometimes because customers would come in all at once basically. Sometimes I just had to wait until I got home if it was just TOO BUSY. When I worked the 6a.m.-2p.m. shift, I would NEVER have time to eat, because it was SO MUCH BUSSIER in the mornings. So, I'd eat breakfast at like 5a.m., then lunch at around 2:30p.m. Don't you think I didn't want to wait that long for lunch? I did it to do MY JOB, NOT to be selfish like the bartender did to me. I don't get WHY you can't see that a JOB is what it is, A JOB, NOT a time to play if they have work? If they don't have work, then, playing is ok, but not when you have work it's just NOT ok. |
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lords, you should try not to let it upset you so much. The bartender didn't mean it as a personal insult. I'm sure if he knew that you would be so offended that he wouldn't have done the shot first. It wouldn't have bothered me one little bit if they downed a shot first, before waiting on me. |
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Lords,
You said yourself he took the shot with another customer. Let me inform you how this works. Customers that buy you shots tend to tip a lot more than a peon like yourself. So if your cheap self had to wait 5 seconds more, good for that bartender. That customer was probably buying plenty of liquor and intended on tipping very well.
Also I have been a regular at many bars. Bartenders would talk to me and hang out and we'd all have a great time. In fact I'd end up tipping 100% alot of the time. Do you really think your measly $1 tip is more important than someone else's who is going to tip more. Nope. They don't care about you. They care about the people who hook them up. I'm pretty sure that by the sour look on your face and the stopwatch you had going you got tip profiled as a cheapo.
You really need to lighten up. How can you get so upset at a bar? In the whole scheme of things it's 5 seconds. Quit whining like a 5 year old. |
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Amazing isn't it that we argue with a person ? like Lords yet a 5 year old understands shut up! She has no clue and tries to tell us our job. Lords I worked a 4 hour shift today and did what I do which is everything wrong in your book and made almost $100... how much do you make complaining????? I try to hate everyone equally but your making me hate arrogant people more! |
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Lords, you're funny, but you've got a lot of hate. I know I've gotten bad service before, but it's like you can remember each and every time like a stab to the kidneys. By the way, chitchatting at the bar is sometimes the hardest part, but it's part of the job and I'm constantly cleaning at work (wish I did it more at home though.) Most (not all) people want to be entertained, remembered, and feel special. Sometimes I have to drink pretend shots just to get a lonely customer off my back. But you're right, some bartenders do seem like they're just out to have a good time, and generally, smoking behind the bar or anywhere where customers can see you is pretty trashy. Still, you're so vehement- you're like the blogger people love to hate. In fact, it's so entertaining, I'm starting to think that your rants are totally fake. I like the extra emphasis with the caps.
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Being a bartender way before I was a server I learned to keep a "vodka bottle" of water behind the bar... want to buy me a shot? When's the last time Lords actually did a shot or was HUMAN KIND CARING and what ever evil she spews... enough to buy the bartender a shot... NO that would've been fine toothed to her bill... she sucks up air we need to breathe! |
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jenaclaree
"Do you really think your measly $1 tip is more important than someone else's who is going to tip more. Nope. They don't care about you."
Then HOW is that really FAIR to treat one customer BETTER than another? That's called DISCRIMINATION. I treated the lady that NEVER tipped me, when she was a regular that came in and won a lot at video poker. MOST of the other regular customers ALWAYS tipped when they won. I got $5, $10, and even a $20 bill, just because I had to go get their money and count it out. They won, so they felt generous to tip. This particular lady that was a regular NEVER tipped. I still treated her the SAME WAY. I didn't go out of order or talk or sweep instead of getting her change like 10 $10 bills from a $100 bill. We kept a lot of big bills because of video poker. My point is, if that bartender wants to be UNFAIR and treat me with disrespect, then he gets NOTHING. I also one time at a nightclub had the same type of thing happen except a much longer wait. I was standing around by this bartender, but instead of looking to see who the next customer is, she was doing like 2 or 3 shots with some customers. I had to go find another bartender that was actually *WORKING* to make my drink.
This feels like Big_momma's attitude that I should cook instead of making the servers "Run ragged." It's like the concept of WORKING HARD, just doesn't seem to be what most people believe in or do. Most servers, just like anyone, would want a 25% tip for not having to work as hard by not having to get condiments, which is extra trips or an extra trip to bring them to me before my meal. I believe in that you should get what you put into the service. If I make the server run ragged, which if they are nice, attentive, went in order, and got things within a timely manner, I will tip VERY WELL, but if I just order a dish "HOW IT COMES", with NO extra work, of course I am not going to tip as well. I may tip that well if I find the server is really caring and attentive. It just depends on the service as a whole. I just don't think it's right to treat one person like gold just because the customer bought someone a shot, but another customer that didn't like crap. I have tipped him well, quite a few times. They serve food at this place too. My bill one time was $20, I tipped $4.00. I NEVER had given him zero before that time that he did the shot. He just irked me with thinking of just *HIS* shot and not the fact that he is suppose to be doing a JOB, NOT having fun. Fun comes AFTER you serve the customer. As I said before, I waited to eat or stopped eating when a customer would come in. So, WHY is it SO UNREASONABLE that I feel they should treat the customer with some respect? Alcohol is NOT something that was a necessity, so I will NOT tip bartenders that put *THEIR OWN* wants before mine. If they need the bathroom as I said before, I can COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND that, but shots, NO, that's UNACCEPTABLE service.
"So if your cheap self had to wait 5 seconds more, good for that bartender. That customer was probably buying plenty of liquor and intended on tipping very well."
Man, what a SELFISH person are you to ONLY care about the MONEY you make. You don't care about the actual CUSTOMER. The person that bought a lot of liquor more than likely WOULD have tipped well anyway, being that they may have been tipsy. A person tends to be happy-go-lucky when a person has some alcohol in their system. WHY not attempt to make that extra buck?
"Cheapo."
Honestly, this has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to do with being cheap. This has to do with making customers the MOST IMPORTANT THING, NOT drinking alcohol, which honestly, is PLAYING on the job. He shouldn't be getting paid to make me wait for him to take a shot. He didn't get paid from me. TO INSURE PROPER SERVICE, that is what a tip is for, NOT so I can watch him take a shot with his buddy. I tip for people that DO THEIR JOB. Barterders who don't deserve a tip either are chit-chatting KNOWING I am there, going out of order, and putting their WANTS first like eating, which they could finish right after they serve the customer. I made the CUSTOMER FIRST, NOT MYSELF when I served people. That's the TRUTH. I treated customers the way I would have liked to be treated when I am a customer.
coorslite
"When's the last time Lords actually did a shot."
Actually 2002. I got VERY sick when I had Grand Marnier shot, jagermeister, and some other shot along with a 2 mixed drinks at least. I can't remember if I had 3 drinks. With the fact that I'm under 100lbs and that I'm a woman, man did I get sick. My stomach bothered me for a whole week. Ever since then I haven't had ANY shots. I'd rather have a nice drink instead of a small shot that burns going down. I drank too much, too fast.
"Enough to buy the bartender a shot."
I would NEVER do that because the bartender is suppose to be WORKING. So, NO, I would NEVER, EVER do that. |
teleburst
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"Actually 2002. I got VERY sick when I had Grand Marnier shot, jagermeister, and some other shot along with a 2 mixed drinks at least".
You're dumber than I thought.
""Enough to buy the bartender a shot."
I would NEVER do that because the bartender is suppose to be WORKING. So, NO, I would NEVER, EVER do that".
YOU'RE COMPLETELY CLUELESS about anything having to do with bars or restaurants. You should probably stop while you're ahead. |
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i dont know if anyone caught this, but in lords retarded post of how she would take a 6 table station she forgot table 3 she dropped off their check and never swept back by to run the card sure sure they could have conveniently paid cash but uh in the midst of being double sat and all she actually forgot about someone and made them wait what a shame 3 days later theyre still sitting at table 3 patiently waiting to pay, then because theyre nice tipped 25% just because
also i dont know any foodrunner who runs a dessert if im completely slammed i may beg another server to do it but really thats happened maybe once in my life |
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ok i missed it a bit she did "ring up the bill" for table 3, but she never dropped off the card or change, and god knows if it were her and the sever presumptuously kept the extra dime theyd get stiffed...so CONGRATS LORDS youve just been stiffed for either never dropping off a credit card or keeping the dime change
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lords, a bartender doing a shot before he serves you is not worthy of all this energy. Isn't this alot of space taken in your head for something that has already happened, and you cant do anything about?
It is possible that he does this routinely so he really doesnt think he is doing wrong. You're lack of tip didn't tell him what he did wrong, he may have just thought "cheapo."
lords when people do these things they dont intentionally say " hey I'm going to hurt her feelings, watch me rude out this one."You may want to remember that before you get all twisted and bent. What does you're husband say about it? When you tell him you got you're feelings hurt because that bartender did a shot before making your drink? Why would you let somebody have that much control over your emotional well being? You have stated that a server has ruined your entire evening, now that's a shame. Life is just too short and precious to let strangers dictate if you have a good time or not. |
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About bartenders taking shots before serving: I love it when my bartender is drunk. I try to keep him as drunk as possible when I go out. Everyone is just happier that way, haha... |
coorslite
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I'm sorry Lords when was the last time you made $25/hour? I didn't see that anywhere in your replies. But then I just scan most of your ignorance so that I can repeat the funniest parts at work... I only get $2.15 an hour yet I am the hostess, waitress, cashier, bartender, and yet I can cook, expo, and multitask... My check every week reads VOID... I think that I should send you my paychecks so that you can go out on the town and have a great time. I'm sure that the servers that wait on you would be glad to give you them too. After all it's not about the money we make. It's how YOU feel! So please post your address and all of us that have offended poor pittiful you can send our scrap paper... oh but wait what would we have to write your order on??? BTW I made $18/hour today doing everything WRONG! How much did you make complaining? |
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coorslite, I have one better for you. When I get my paycheck every two weeks I owe the company money. This pay period it was $159.00. I have me and my family on the medical insurance, at the cost of $103.00 a week. Its good insurance medical, dental and optical. Plus I do claim all of my tips, and I make $6.00 as an hourly wage. |
lords_of_acid
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shelby
"Ok i missed it a bit she did "ring up the bill" for table 3, but she never dropped off the card or change."
Well, for one thing, I would have it in my hand(either the credit card or change) so I would just go bring it to the customer. I just didn't write every detail out, but, to me, it's common sense that after you pick up a customer's bill to not only ring it up, but bring back their change or credit card to them. When I was writing this scenario, I was thinking of the obvious, that when I'd ring the bill up, the bill, plus the credit card or change would accompany it RIGHT AFTER I rung it up. I just didn't think it was necessary to write that detail, because when a server goes to ring up a bill, they SHOULD just go to give the change or credit card to the customer, not go to buss a table before, when they have it in their hands.
"And i still hold no foodrunner ive ever seen runs dessert."
I've had quite a few times a food runner run our dessert to us.
coorslite
"I'm sorry Lords when was the last time you made $25/hour?"
Does Britney Spears make a lot because she's smart? I think NOT! The money a person makes DOESN'T make them a smarter or better person.
"How much did you make complaining?"
Actually, some free items sometimes. I posted about this already, but I will explain again. Like a time when a waitress I wrote about at Chilis was EXTREMLY RUDE and I waited a half an hour for my margarita because they were out of the shakers for the "Presidente' Margarita", which there was NO communication from the bartender about this and the waitress didn't go to check on it until about 20 minutes at my table, which was pretty long already. She is the waitress that brought out my order which was ribs, instead of cinnamon apples, I wanted extra fries, also 2 sides of bar-b-que sauce, 1 side of mayonnaise, and 1 side of ranch. She brought the food to me with the cinnamon apples, only the side of ranch as far as the condiments go, and NO extra fries. NO apologies were given. I had to ask her twice to get utensils. When I told the waitress about her mistakes because I was pissed about my missing margarita, she said "Whatever" when I told her she brought it to me wrong and she said "It's the hostess's job to get the utensils." The manager told me "She's NO LONGER with us", meaning, there must have been others that complained about her rudeness. He sent me $15 of gift certificates. So complaining DOES make money. I didn't honestly do it for the money, I complained because I want to have a NICE, FUN, experience with NO mistakes and get things in a TIMELY manner. I think that she was just SO RUDE.
I also got $40 from an Applebee's bad experience. This was the day of or the day after Katrina hit in Louisiana. The waitress took our drink order, but made conversation about the hurricane when we were both HUNGRY. If she wanted to be friendly, do it AFTER you get the order, so we won't be waiting longer for our food. Anyway, ordered a side of ranch with mozzarella sticks as an appetizer and the food runner brought it out without the ranch. She brings it out, which by then, my husband already ate 3 or more of them. I said "Thank you" when she brought it out even, even though I was pissed already. Then the food came. I ordered a Weight Watcher's Tango Chicken Sandwich with NO bar-b-que ranch, 2 sides of mayonnaise, and 1 side of mustard. The sandwich comes out with bar-b-que ranch on it, with NONE of the condiments, and NO fries, which on the menu, it states "All Sandwiches Include Fries" and they also had exceptions like rollsups, but NOT an exception for the Weight Watcher's sandwich. That is the ONLY sandwich in the Weight Watcher's section. I got the pineapple pieces on the side like the menu stated, but I KNOW the the menu also stated ALL sandwiches included fries. So, I told that to the server and the food runner. They argued with me that "It's not in the same section", which DOESN'T MATTER, it's STILL A SANDWICH. I asked her after my food arrived wrong "Can I have fries" and I also told her the sandwich had bar-b-que ranch sauce on it, which I stated I didn't want. The server's are suppose to KNOW it comes with fries because the menu STATES IT. That was the ONLY time I ever got something from the Weight Watcher's section. I wanted a chicken sandwich without bacon and that was the ONLY one on the menu avaliable without bacon, so that is why I got that sandwich. I didn't want to pay an extra buck or whatever for something I didn't feel lke having. Sometimes I am just not in a bacon mood. That is WHY I ordered from the Weight Watcher's section. I HONESTLY thought I would have fries with my meal. Anyway, she DIDN'T apologize for ANY of her mistakes. The food runner didn't apologize either. I reported the incident on the website. I just didn't feel like going through the whole thing again with the manager. My point is, it PAYS, LITERALLY, to complain. I would, HONESTLY, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, RATHERED have a GREAT time with NO mistakes and pay the server 25%. The server also didn't even charge me for my mountain dew for some reason. So, I only spent around $32 and something cents because of the NO tip and received $40.
I got the $20 and a couple of free appetizer cards from Bennigans, which I didn't get good service the time I used the $20 and 1 of the cards. I won't be using the other one at this particular location that the manager overcharged me the amount he gave me. It's still in my nightstand unused because I don't want to deal with that manager that overcharged me over $1. It was suppose to be $20 off, he, for some reason, took off $18.57, if I remember the correct cents, when he was the one that gave me that much in the FIRST place. I at least got around $25 free stuff for complaining, even though it was pure hell to go through the bad service. I would rather just NOT get ANY freebies and get FANTASTIC service. That is the TRUTH. Do you honestly think I want to be mad or upset? NO WAY, I'd rather have a good time.
teleburst
"YOU'RE COMPLETELY CLUELESS about anything having to do with bars or restaurants. You should probably stop while you're ahead."
Just because making drinking shots before a customer is a "NORMAL" thing doesn't make it RIGHT. People steal or kill people, but that doesn't make it ok to do those things just because they go on "Normally" in everyday life somewhere in this world. Work should be BEFORE playing, plain and simple.
jammie
"You have stated that a server has ruined your entire evening, now that's a shame."
It's just hard not to let things bother me. I really wish I could like most entrees without condiments like my husband, but I really don't like the entrees without some extras. I have talked about situations for hours after sometimes if they were really bad. I think about it the next day if it happened that night before for instance. I know that's pretty obsessive, but it's just hard to not feel hurt when someone puts "Their own wants" ahead of their work or if the person can't just say they're sorry for the mistake. Sure, I didn't work every second, but I honestly did stop chit-chatting or eating to serve someone.
"Why would you let somebody have that much control over your emotional well being?"
I am actually more pissed about jenaclaree's posts. I can't believe that ANYONE in the right mine thinks it's OK to play on the job when the employee has actually work to be done and that doing their work in a timely manner can get them a better tip. I don't think of the person as a slave, just a bartender that serves a drink. I don't need him to take my coat or something, just serve me a drink like a barterder is SUPPOSE to do, that's all. Even eating candy or smoking shouldn't come before a customer. That is VERY SELFISH on the bartender's part of not caring about his or her customer's time. I just couldn't fathom treating my own wants before a customer, which they are getting paid to SERVE, NOT to take alcohol shots. I can understand if he did that AFTER he served me if there wasn't ANY other customers waiting to be served, but NOT when a customer is waiting to be served, that's DISREPECTFUL. It bothers me more that jenaclaree has the attitude just like "I don't have to work for my money" type of attitude. I don't get that. In this world, you have to work for money, it just doesn't happen if the worker puts their own wants first. Sure, there are plenty of people that could care less if they wait, I'm just not one of those people and a lot of people DON'T like to wait either.
It's just hard not to get upset about mean or non-caring people that just don't realize they are being non-caring.
I would MUCH, MUCH, MUCH rather have the experience when I gave the $12 tip for the $47 and something cents meal, HONESTLY, than get bad service just to get a freebie, it's just NOT WORTH IT. I want to have a NICE experience, NOT a bad one. Honestly, if I wouldn't feel that way, WHY would I give a 25% tip? If I was a cheapo, I would give 17% or so for great service. I think servers deserve a LOT MORE than 17% if they get the order correct and in a timely manner for the extras I request like condiments before my meal or specific stuff on my sandwich. I just wish I'd have PERFECT SERVICE EVERYTIME, but I know that's not very likely. I take everything into account like if the person apologized if they made a mistake, stuff like that.
"Lords when people do these things they dont intentionally say " hey I'm going to hurt her feelings, watch me rude out this one."
I know they may not be even doing this intentionally, but they aren't thinking "When I'm a customer, do I like to wait?" I bet these same people will say they don't. They do know that they are PLAYING on the job, that is not rocket science to figure that out and that I was sitting there in front of him waiting to be served with my credit card out. He has served me quite a number of times, I have always tipped him well. I just don't respect people that don't respect me. I know I shouldn't let it get to me because it's not really important in the grand scheme of things, but it's hard not to let things get to me. |
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Lords there you go with no sense again! No Weight Watchers meal would come with fries. That's pretty much understood no matter what the menu said. WW is for people who are dieting. If you'd prefer that sandwich you'd need to say that you'd still like the fries with your meal.
And all this talk about getting free stuff; oh no, you're not cheap! Also, months ago you admitted to having a hard time ever leaving 15% but now you say some servers can get 25% out of you.
I don't think so. |
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Alright listen B@$ch. I am not uncaring I am realistic. You're not the only person sitting at their bar. If I buy a shot for a bartender and he feels like taking it too bad for you. Part of a bartenders job is to entertain. My money is just as good as yours and I bought somebody a shot. WHy should my money go to waste? Because you are too SELFISH to give me a second to enjoy a shot with the bartender? Where the hell do you get off trying to dictate how I spend my money? If I buy the bartender a shot are they supposed to let it go to waste for you? Besides obviously I was there first. By taking the shot I bought him. He's going in order. Isn't that your philosophy? |
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Ok Lords, I've been quiet enough...I'm a trainer with Applebee's and the Tango Ckn Sand is under the weight watcher's menu and not the sandwich menu and it tell what it comes with...Do you really think that someone that is on weight watcher's would eat fries???? If so then you are even dumber than I thought! |
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Also are you a moron? Why would weight watchers food come with fries? That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard of?
"I HONESTLY thought I would have fries with my meal."
Well you made the mistake. Why should the restaurant pay for that? That's just SELFISH and UNCARING. |
lords_of_acid
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big_momma
"That's pretty much understood no matter what the menu said."
If the menu stated it, it SHOULD come with it, plain and simple. I'm NOT a mind reader, I'm a MENU reader. I ONLY know what it states. A customer should NEVER have to order something that the menu states "It comes with." Why bother wasting your time if it suppose to COME with it already? It's NOT understood if the menu states it. They should have "Excludes Weight Watcher's", but it doesn't. It still is written the SAME way since Aug. That is WHY I haven't gotten that sandwich, because if I do, I really shouldn't have to order it with fries, because COMES with fries.
http://diets.aol.com/aoltakesitoff/behind_the_diets/weight_watchers2\
This is an example of a person on Weight Watcher's that eats FRIES.
"Also, months ago you admitted to having a hard time ever leaving 15%."
That is NOT TRUE at ALL. I am HONEST about the tips I give. Being on this site has even taught me about what percentages I should be giving. |
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jenaclaree
"Well you made the mistake."
NO, the restaurant printed "All sandwiches INCLUDE fries" with NO exceptions to the Weight Watcher's sandwich. The person that made the menu is 100% at fault for printed FALSE information. I just ordered from what the menu stated. The most idiotic thing I've heard of was someone who can't take a menu for the EXACT WORDING that it states. That's what they do with coupons. If it states "One person table" or ENTREE instead of an appetizer. They take their coupons LITERALLY, so WHY can't customer's take the menu LITERALLY? One time I asked a waitress since I bought a appetizer as my meal would it count as the 2 entrees to use the coupon, she asked the manager, the manager said NO. I figured that answer would be no. My point is, they take EVERY WORD on a coupon seriously, I took EVERY WORD on the menu that pertained my sandwich seriously.
"Why should the restaurant pay for that?"
They did, so your just JEALOUS that they did. It's NOT selfish of me, it's SELFISH of THEM to print a FALSE thing on the menu, not to take TIME TO PROOFREAD, that's what I call SELFISH. I caught the mistake, WHY can't they?
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jenaclaree
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I'm Jealous of the crazy woman? LOL |
shelby
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oh yes jena...youre turning green before me the jealousy is so obvious hahaha
and lords funny you would use the words common sense in a sentence i really had to chuckle over that. but i figured since you wrote out at other 12,468 steps of service you would have given in that 10 mintue time frame you would have remembered to write in dropping off the card/change and wishing them a good evening.
but of course youre not a server, so "ringing up the bill" in you small mind would have been you standing behind the register at the donut shop doling out change
i still hold my own on a foodrunner never having run a dessert to me, and believe me my family eats at the hated chain places quite often so its not a difference in the type of establishment we eat in maybe the server is so tired of you they beg someone else to run out the dessert but nah...could never happen youre just too personable! |
coorslite
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So lords you are saying we are stupid because we work hard and earn our money where you just go out of your way to be the ignorant customer from some other planet that does not know how to read or use common sense to figure out a simple menu? When you order at this same Applebee's do you get MAD when your pasta alfredo doesn't come with garlic mashed potatoes and steamed veggies? Afterall it clearly states that dinners come with them. On a different page of course. HOW MEAN OF THEM! To actually try to make the menu simple for the ignorant. Yet you being smarter than them can twist things around so that you get free food. Sorry lords you loose... you just stole from that restaurant. Although I am sure the entire staff is probably still laughing about it... they sure won't remember you for that one. And you know because servers know other servers at different restaurants I'm sure every other restaurant in town knows it's you when you walk in the door! Not to mention all the customers that overheard the employees laughing about you. Because something that stupid needs to be repeated. Again you suck as a human being, and proved yet again you are a thief, this time you not only stole the waitress' time you stole food. SELFISH SELFISH SELFISH! |
bluediamond4541
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Lords,
I work part time at Applebee's, and the section that has "All Sandwiches Includes Fries" is printed in the section with the regular burger and sandwiches. The Weight Watchers menu is printed in a different section from the the other food just like appetizers, salads, steaks etc. Each section has what sides go with the meal. Nothing on the Weight Watchers menu comes with fries. The Tango Chicken Sandwich has pineapple printed as the side because it is suppose to be a low fat dish. If you wanted fries instead of pineapple, you could have just told your server that you wanted fries instead of fruit, and it would have came out that way. |
lords_of_acid
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bluediamond4541
"If you wanted fries instead of pineapple, you could have just told your server that you wanted fries instead of fruit, and it would have came out that way."
WHY tell them if "All sandwiches include fries", with NO exceptions to the Weight Watcher's sandwich?
"The Weight Watchers menu is printed in a different section from the the other food just like appetizers, salads, steaks etc."
So what if it's not in the same section, I read it and BELIEVED it was true. I looked all around the menu and saw "All sandwiches include fries", well that IS what it means, ALL SANDWICHES, whether in that section or not. It didn't state "In this section ONLY" or any exceptions to the weight watcher's sandwich.
"Nothing on the Weight Watchers menu comes with fries."
Tango Chicken sandwich DOES according to "All sandwiches include fries" part, it's SUPPOSE to include fries as well as pineapple pieces.
The people that printed this menu didn't PROOFREAD the menu obviously.
I am NOT a mind reader, I read WHAT the MENU states, WORD FOR WORD. Section or no section, ALL sandwiches ARE suppose to include FRIES. The problem is they added Weight Watcher's to their menu within the last year or so, so they didn't change the sandwich section, that's the PROBLEM. |
bluediamond4541
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Lords,
I am sorry you were confused about the menu. It's not even worth arguing about. I have never had anyone to confuse which sides go with what since they are listed beside the item on the menu. But either way, you misunderstood the menu, so the next time you go to Applebee's, and get the Tango Chicken just ask for fries instead of pineapple so you can have your meal the way you want it. |
meeulk
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Y'all have gotten so far off topic here!
Thanks to all that posted a tip for me! most helpful! |
teleburst
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"So what if it's not in the same section, I read it and BELIEVED it was true".
So? Did you also believe that all sandwiches anywhere in the world comes with fries? Because that's what it said, right?
You should try to wet that sponge of a brain that you have, because it's bone dry. At some point, you really have to use some common sense. |
teleburst
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" but I KNOW the the menu also stated ALL sandwiches included fries. So, I told that to the server and the food runner. They argued with me that "It's not in the same section", which DOESN'T MATTER, it's STILL A SANDWICH. I asked her after my food arrived wrong "Can I have fries" and I also told her the sandwich had bar-b-que ranch sauce on it, which I stated I didn't want. The server's are suppose to KNOW it comes with fries because the menu STATES IT. That was the ONLY time I ever got something from the Weight Watcher's section. I wanted a chicken sandwich without bacon and that was the ONLY one on the menu avaliable without bacon, so that is why I got that sandwich. I didn't want to pay an extra buck or whatever for something I didn't feel lke having. Sometimes I am just not in a bacon mood. That is WHY I ordered from the Weight Watcher's section. I HONESTLY thought I would have fries with my meal. Anyway, she DIDN'T apologize for ANY of her mistakes".
She didn't make a mistake, YOU did. |
whateveryouwant
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Hey Meeulk - yea, most threads eventually evolve from the specific to the random. It's kinda fun to watch it happen sometimes. Did you try anything specific and if so how's it working for you? |
meeulk
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tips have been great! I think the 2 years I tool off in between has made me a better server... dont know why... maybe I gained some patience. I've really tried to seem as if I'm not in a hurry, frustrated, or weeded. I think it relaxes the customer. I've also tried to get some laughs out of the customers. Its hard to judge how what you say will be accepted. Thats my biggest fault. I'm pretty introverted and small talk isn't my cup of tea, but I'm working on it!! |
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tips have been great! I think the 2 years I took off in between has made me a better server... dont know why... maybe I gained some patience. I've really tried to seem as if I'm not in a hurry, frustrated, or weeded. I think it relaxes the customer. I've also tried to get some laughs out of the customers. Its hard to judge how what you say will be accepted. Thats my biggest fault. I'm pretty introverted and small talk isn't my cup of tea, but I'm working on it!! |
coorslite
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meeulk I think that everyone but Lords will agree... do your job, have fun and don't let ignorant people get you down. Laugh at them. God knows restaurants all over the world are laughing at Lords. When they can't read or figure out the menu like Lords offer a no brainer. If they stiff you well then just hope they get a flat tire or a hurricane destroys whatever they have. Or some other kind of Karma bites them in the butt. Because it will. Just do the best that you can with what you have to work with. Most customers Lords excluded... understand that you are working and doing many many things at one time. When the kitchen is having long ticket times and we all know this happens again except Lords, "sell" yourself to the table. Make them forget about the time... I know you said small talk is not your cup of tea. But notice something about them... wife's outfit, talk to the kids at the table. When things get crazy and everyone from the kitchen to the bar is weeded and my section is full... especially on the weekends where sections are smaller, I treat my whole section as one party and sometimes I get them talking to each other. Which is alot easier for me since I usually have a section full of regulars that asked for me. I look forward to those kind of nights because I know the money is good and I get to spend time with them. And if you get a table like Lords just remember the reason why her husband doesn't like all those condiments is because he's getting "his" somewhere else and smile! Everytime someone asks for alot of crap that will just cover up the food they are eating remember Lords is just a miserable person who has no clue and smile! Everytime someone complains that they were charged an extra 4 cents (Yes 4 cents) and oh the hurt feelings...whatever... smile because that makes that person think they are smarter than you!(and they aren't!) Giggle to yourself when someone thinks they are the only important person in the restaurant and then laugh out loud when you ring in the order for them because you know how stupid it is. And I hope you get the hiccups from your laughter all the way to the bank when you put in the great money you made that night!
Also a good thing to do is make friends with the kitchen staff. They will be your best money makers! Treat them with respect. ALWAYS! They work too hard! And have to make retarded orders for people who recreate the menu!PS watching the news tonight there is too many signing bonuses for jobs in New Orleans for Lords to be sitting on her really skinny butt complaining here! |
lords_of_acid
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teleburst
"She didn't make a mistake, YOU did."
NO, *SHE* did by NOT KNOWING the menu at the place she worked at. The menu clearly states "All sandwiches include fries", meaning *ALL* sandwiches. There are NO EXCEPTIONS to ANY of the sandwiches.
This is an old menu to quote to show just HOW they word things. They kept it worded the same basically as what it is now.
"All rollups, Sandwiches, and Burgers(except Steak Fajita Rollup) include fries. Sub Onion Peels for $.75."
This is from a old to-go menu from Applebee's. This really DOESN'T MENTION an exception to Weight Watcher's like they have for the Steak Fajita Rollup or they don't have ANYTHING that it states that it HAS to be in that section ONLY.
Just like when a coupon states "One per party, per table, per visit", "Equal or lesser value", or as I stated before get $4.00 off 2 entree's, but only purchase one entree and one appetizer, which they WILL NOT let you use a coupon because it DOEN'T state 2 meals or appetizers are included. The restaurants take coupons as to what they say, so WHY can't a customer take a menu to what it states exactly, just like they take the coupons seriously. If a coupon is expired, they won't take it. If a coupon or gift card states, it's only good for food and non-alcoholic beverages, then you CAN'T get alcohol on the coupon or gift card and you CAN'T pay the tip with it either.
bluediamond4541
"But either way, you misunderstood the menu, so the next time you go to Applebee's, and get the Tango Chicken just ask for fries instead of pineapple so you can have your meal the way you want it."
I know that the servers aren't going to probably read the menu to know this again, so if I would ever get it again, I will have to order it, even though fries ARE listed for *ANY* sandwiches. See, I would have asked her, but then I found that part in the menu that stated "All sandwiches include fries", and I took it to mean I'd get fries. I DIDN'T misunderstood ANYTHING, I know how to read. There are NO EXCEPTIONS for ANY of the sandwiches NOT to include fries, plain and simple, whether in a particular section or not, it's STILL a *SANDWICH*. I didn't do this intentionally, HONESTLY.
I have never had a weight problem so I don't know that fries aren't USUALLY served with a weight watcher's thing. McDonald's and Wendy's even has Weight Watcher's points for a small portion of fries I looked up on the internet. So this should PROVE that people that are on Weight Watcher's actually DO EAT fries. So, I'm NOT the one that made ANY mistake. The servers, the cooks, and the person that printed the menu poorly are ALL at fault. The server is more at fault because she should have KNOWN the menu BEFORE taking it to me WRONG.
Website: Example: http://uriblyd.beigetower.org/WW/wendy.htm
I know it's a fattening item, but it really didn't occur to me that the menu had been written poorly. I just REALLY thought I'd get fries. |
big_momma
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Yes Lords, the WHOLE world is wrong and you're right, as usual.
The menu assumed that the reader would have common sense. Most people do but you don't. And that's the whole world's fault. We all suck but you're a shining example of a fully-functional, intelligent person of integrity. Just reading everything you've ever written proves to me that you're the ultimate perfect person in every way. The whole world should just climb on our hands and knees and thank the Lord for the wisdom you deem to impart to us.
I will strive to be more like you, and model my children after you. From now on I will call you Your Highness, you're that far above me and everyone on this board and in this world. I bow before you. |
bluediamond4541
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Lords,
"I know that the servers aren't going to probably read the menu to know this again, so if I would ever get it again, I will have to order it, even though fries ARE listed for *ANY* sandwiches."
OK, whatever you say.
"I DIDN'T misunderstood ANYTHING, I know how to read. There are NO EXCEPTIONS for ANY of the sandwiches NOT to include fries, plain and simple, whether in a particular section or not, it's STILL a *SANDWICH*."
Ok, whatever you say.
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coorslite
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No please big_momma understand that lords sucks in any situation and when she is called out on it she reverts to her 5 year old state where we are all out to get her and we are just all wrong wrong out of order and uncaring can you see this temper tantrum in the grocery store where your child acts this way? HOW dare they do this to me?? It's all about me! I am the only one that matters and has any rational thought! I don't care how many millions of servers and other customers don't see things MY way... they just don't understand that I am first... I don't need to work I just need to complain and I will get what I want and even if I don't I'll get lots of free stuff so that makes me smarter than you! big_momma if you give in to her way of thinking and I know you don't... let me know so I can beat some sense into you!
BUT to let you know these are some things you need to pass around to your family...
Always go to applebees and rearrange the menu to fit into the "gonna get this for free" item! it's not on the menu but modify it enought and complain enough not only do you not have to work you get free stuff so why bother?
Go to Burger King. Order the same sides... you get charged. No free food.
Get threw a hurricane and yet still complain about the waitress that chit chatted about that when your retarded self should've been listening to the news and left before it hit!
So she gets free stuff and still never ever said the last time she made $25/hour... Guess I should've said by actually working! PS they have a "retard" letter they send out at applebees where they really listen to your complaint and laugh about it at the area directors meetings... and give you free stuff. Yes they track that. I worked there for over 2 years I know. Love to all of you but Lords why are you still alive? |
coorslite
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lords why are you still here? I really hoped you choked on the wishbone for thanksgiving! You suck give it up! guess you are the anti sever christ |
big_momma
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LOL Coorslight (my beverage of choice) but I was hoping that if we all just agreed with her she'd go away. No need to beat sense into me!
Just like nobody can beat any sense into her. She's not intelligent, has no common sense and as you said, thinks the whole world should revolve around her. I find it revolting and fascinating at the same time. How will she ever get through life, being the way she is?
And if she has two children, and they have two children, and so on, there will be a lot of people like her out there for my children to deal with.
My children behave better than she does. Lords frightens me. I can't believe that she actually reached her 20's with this ignorance and attitude. It has to be a mental disability and I know I should feel sorry for her but the more she rants and stomps her feet, the more revolted I become. Watching her is like watching a train wreck.
I think she'd make great reality TV though. |
lords_of_acid
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coorslite
"Left before it hit!"
I did, I went to a Tennesse Applebee's that particular time. I left the Sunday before the storm, which was Monday.
"I don't need to work I just need to complain."
I have a job. I have been having one since Oct. 17, because I had gotten laid off from the job I had before the hurricane because my job was in downtown New Orleans where the storm made lots of flooding and damage.
"Always go to applebees and rearrange the menu to fit into the "gonna get this for free" item!"
I didn't do this on purpose, honestly, I would have asked her if the sandwich came with fries if it didn't say "All sandwiches include fries."
Some restaurants have under their section: "Served with fries". That is what they should have done. This way they wouldn't have said *ALL* sandwiches, so I would have asked her then. I had ENOUGH to ask for like lettuce, no bar-b-que ranch, ranch with mozzarella sticks, 2 sides of mayonnaise and 1 side of mustard. I really rather not order more things than necessary so the server won't forget everything that I have ordered, even though she WROTE it down. She didn't get the orders correct. That is WHY I chose NOT to order what's ALREADY stated on the menu. Since it DOES state this, I didn't need to order fries. It's NEVER necessary to order something that a meal includes, like marinara sauce with mozzarella sticks, if the menu stated it came with it.
"Go to Burger King. Order the same sides... you get charged. No free food."
That's NOT true. One time when I was a teenager, my mom and I ordered 3 sandwiches or so(can't remember if it was 3 or 4), which we waited 20 minutes. My mother complained and even another customer noticed that we were still there. We got the WHOLE order FREE, NOT just 1 sandwich.
"HOW dare they do this to me?? It's all about me! I am the only one that matters and has any rational thought!"
NO, that's NOT true. I actually DO think about that if the first table was first, meaning if it wasn't me, I'd HOPE I'd WAIT LONGER to be FAIR. That is the TRUTH! I actually DO consider WHO'S first, even though it's NOT me a LOT of times. I have made sure that bartenders know that "He's first" if they would try to get my order. I have actually done that before lots of times. So, QUIT saying it's all about *ME* when a LOT of ya'll seem to think when a person's serve's someone that *PLAYING*, which is by the way, *ALL ABOUT the SERVER* if the server makes the customer wait for something such as a shot of alcohol or to eat a snack. THAT is what I call *It's all about ME attitude*, not meaning myself personally, but the CONCEPT of thinking ONLY about one's self, but NOT considering the *CUSTOMER'S* wait at ALL.
It was ALL about the *BARTENDER'S SHOT*, but NOT about *HIS JOB*, which was to BARTEND. To actually *CARE* about someone else, which was a customer, instead of just *HIMSELF*. See, I put MY wants to the side to serve the public when I worked. I went from 5a.m. - around 2:15p.m. or 2:30p.m. to eat lunch because I DID my job. Sometimes I didn't even have time to do all my side work like mopping. I thought it was more important to get things filled such as the ice bend so customer's wouldn't have to wait for drinks when the next person would come on my shift and restock milks, sugar, etc. Mopping could technically be done once a day and the place could be ok. I wanted the stuff that made customer's have to wait to be filled FIRST. I would go serve customer's instead of finish eating. Then my food would get cold, sometimes not even getting to eat the food that was cooked. See, I was CARING to the customers, NOT just thinking of *MYSELF*. So I don't get WHY ya'll think that it's ok to put a customer last for a shot of alcohol of all things, get real? NO tip, for NOT caring about my time. If he would have left his shot there and got my order, then he would have received a tip, but not doing that before he served me KNOWING I am waiting to order, HOW SELFISH is that to ONLY think of HIMSELF, but NOT about the job he is getting PAID to do. |
lords_of_acid
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"Go to Burger King. Order the same sides... you get charged. No free food."
Forgot to mention, it was McDonald's not Burger King, but it's still fast food. |
nattie
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The weight watcher's portion of the menu is under weight watcher's not sandwiches! I know I work there and I look at the menu every f.....day! Please go kill yourself now! |
lords_of_acid
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nattie
"The weight watcher's portion of the menu is under weight watcher's not sandwiches! I know I work there and I look at the menu every f.....day! Please go kill yourself now!"
This has NOTHING to do with "WHAT IT'S UNDER", it has to do with that the menu states "ALL SANDWICHES" meaning the Weight Watcher's Tango Chicken SANDWICH included, DUH. It is STILL A SANDWICH NO MATTER WHAT IT'S UNDER OR LOCATED AT ON THE MENU. All means ALL, plain and simple. It doesn't have ANY exceptions or that it saids "ONLY in this section." So therefore ALL SANDWICHES INCLUDE FRIES. The menu states it, ALL, meaning ALL, ALL means ALL OF THEM, NOT excluding ANY of them on the menu. The exclusions were rollups, but NO sandwiches at ALL were excluded. Obviously you can't read. I know what I read. ALL means ALL, whether in that section or not, I read it as ALL, meaning Tango Chicken SANDWICH(there's even the word SANDWICH in the name of the entree) to PROVE it's still a SANDWICH! |
teleburst
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lords, you never answered the question - why don't you think that all sandwichdes in every restaurant in the world doesn't come with fries? After all, it didn't say, "All sandwiches on this menu come with fries". It said "All sandwiches come with fries". So why not expect every sandwich at Chilis or McDonald's to automatically come with fries? |
ranjer764
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I think it is "odd" that "lords" is concerned about the Weight Watchers menu when she claims to be petite. Of course, I find that every post of hers is odd. I work for a major chain where all sandwiches do NOT come with fries ... healthy people like options. But who's saying "lords" is healthy?
and ... yeah ... I agree that the world would be a happier place without "lords" in it. |
lords_of_acid
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"I think it is "odd" that "lords" is concerned about the Weight Watchers menu when she claims to be petite."
As I stated before, I picked that sandwich because it IS the ONLY grilled chicken sandwich WITHOUT bacon.
Also being short, doesn't mean someone is overweight, but I'm still 90-92lbs at 5'0". My mother is 5'2" and weighs 160lbs, which is overweight. My dad is 6'0" tall and weighs over 200lbs.
teleburst
"why don't you think that all sandwichdes in every restaurant in the world doesn't come with fries?
Because the menu has to STATE it. The menu stated ALL, so I thought ALL, meaning the sandwich I got too. |
bluediamond4541
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Lords,
How's it going with asking the server for the condiments before the meal? Is that working better for you? |
ranjer764
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oh, damn ... the troll is talking to me.
you've never had a problem before modifying the hell out of everything you order; why don't you just 86 the bacon so you can you can get your fries? and maybe they'll deep fry the ketchup and ranch to your specifications as well.
and please read last week's issue of Time magazine. Try to gain some perspective on what's important. You obviously have loads of time on your hands; why not find some room in that hamster-sized heart of yours to help feed someone in your home town who could CARE LESS if their can of Spaghettios ( Thanksgiving dinner ) is even HOT - much less that their Red Cross MRE has a side of ranch with it? |
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ranjer:
I think you and Lords have bonded. She is now sharing the exact wt/ht of her immediate family with you. |
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"teleburst
"why don't you think that all sandwichdes in every restaurant in the world doesn't come with fries?
Because the menu has to STATE it. The menu stated ALL, so I thought ALL, meaning the sandwich I got too".
The menu DID state it. It said "All sandwiches come with fries". That's pretty definitive. It didn't say, "All sandwiches ON THIS MENU come with fries" or "All sandwiches SERVED BY THIS RESTAURANT come with fries". And yet, when I went into McDonald's today and ordered a Big Mac sandwich, it didn't come with fries unless I ordered it that way. Big Mac is a sandwich and it dodn't come with fries unless I ordered it that way. Should I have bitched about it and gotten some free food like you do? |
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whateveryouwant ... take that back
and make "lords" say she's "sorry" for "hurting my feelings" waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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Lords is the sorriest person I've ever not met! Yet when she is wrong will not admit it or say she is sorry. She steals from servers steals from restaurants and that is how she makes herself feel good. By the way Applebees has a marinated chicken sand that comes without bacon yet has fries... and Lords I worked there for over 2 years... and it has always been a 99 cent charge for the sub for onion peels! You are retarded do you know that? Please get help! And to bring more to the table... both of my parents and grandparents did not smoke but all died of lung cancer... wait did you apologize for the ones you offended earlier? No because you are always right and everyone should bow down to you. Again when was the last time you worked and made $25/hour... I missed this... AND I MEAN WORK!When your dog needs to go out to pee and your timer goes off on the oven (sorry may loose you on this because you don't cook) And the phone is ringing and you have no clue what went off first what do you do? I'm sure you take role
call.... or ask your maid! I will open the door as I am answering the phone and shutting off the oven.... which happened first? Who cares? As long as it all gets done and everything is okay and you are not anywhere to be seen! You are too miserable for words!I hope hell has no fries or ranch or bbq sauce or mayo.
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No she never apologized. |
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why would she? NO TIP FOR LORDS! And me personally do feel bad for your losses because I know how it feels to loose those that you love!And know when she dies she will have to sit in the smoking section and have no condiments!Read the new thread.. by newtipper... Lords stay away from that you don't have any clue so don't start on it! I've already warned them about you! |
teleburst
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"teleburst
"why don't you think that all sandwichdes in every restaurant in the world doesn't come with fries?
Because the menu has to STATE it. The menu stated ALL, so I thought ALL, meaning the sandwich I got too".
Exactly. The menu stated ALL. Therefore, according to your logic, ALL sandwiches in the world must come with fries. So, how do you answer that (because you HAVEN'T answered that - are you afraid to answer the question)? |
lords_of_acid
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bluediamond4541
"How's it going with asking the server for the condiments before the meal? Is that working better for you?"
I really don't know how to THANK YOU, because I have gotten ALL my condiments before my meal at least 4 times so far, which is all I can remember since you have suggested it. It's such a GREAT idea because I don't have ANY wait when my food arrives, I'm MUCH HAPPIER because I am not aggrevated with waiting for somethings that I order with the meal usually, and it's just really the BEST advice that ANYONE on this board has EVER given me. Sure, I still have mess ups sometimes.
This weekend, I went to Chilis. The waitress was nice and got my condiments before my meal. I do feel I have to tell them that when someone else brings out the food they forget because I don't want them to think that I'm weird because I am asking them to bring them before or anything. I know I don't have to give them an explaination, but it does seem weird to request something before my meal such as condiments. Anyway, I wrote my order down and got the information from the chilis menu on the website.
This was a complicated order because I didn't want jalapeno jack cheese, so I felt I should list the stuff I didn't want on the cajun chicken sandwich, well I should have just listed it with only, because she didn't go by the menu, just by the stuff written down which was:
Cajun Chicken sandwich No, Jalapeno Jack Cheese, No Tomato, No Pickles, No Chipotle-Ranch, Add Cheddar, Add Bacon Extra Crispy, 2 sides of mayonnaise, 1 side of mustard, 1 side of chipotle-ranch, fries lightly cooked-NO SALT.
My fries the time I gave the $12 tip at Chilis, my fries had SO MUCH SALT, which was MY FAULT for not specifying HOW I wanted the fries. I personally don't like a whole lot of salt on fries. I can always put my own amount of salt with the salt shaker. The fries were overdone that time too, so that is WHY I have the fries cooked a certain way. A lot of people like crispy fries, I rather them not to crispy, not so soggy like if a person puts them in the microwave, but not dark brown.
Anyway, the menu states it comes with lettuce and awesome blossom strings. I didn't do a order that was saying "ONLY" instead of all the no's because I didn't want any confusion with the type of cheese that I wanted. Some people take it for granted when you say "Lettuce and mayonnaise only" when I order let's say a hamburger that comes with bacon and cheese, that the cheese is automatically comes on it even though I stated "Lettuce and onions only". Sometimes I have made sure that Wendy's knew if I order the bacon cheeseburger, that I wanted the bacon and cheese also. My point is, the waitress asked about my order and I told her what I have on the paper is what I want. The fact that I didn't have that I did wanted lettuce and awesome blossom strings should have led her to believe I did want them on the sandwich and that since I had SO MANY details, that I must have KNOWN what comes on the sandwich. I feel she should have ASKED me, but she assumed I wanted it plain. I assumed she was going to read the menu and see that things AUTOMATICALLY are suppose to come on the sandwich. I really hate adding MORE lines to ALL OF THAT I have already, but I might just have to if I have something like that again and state "Even though it comes with fries, I want fries" or whatever the menu states. Lately, when I've ordered mozzarella sticks, I say "I would like to ADD a side of ranch, instead of I would like a side of ranch." It's pitfull I have to say it that way, but it's worked. I don't have servers bringing out no marinara, when my husband and I like to dip the mozzarella sticks in BOTH. I don't get WHY some server's assumed if I asked for a side of ranch, which is an appetizer, knowing I am with someone else, would not bring the marinara incase if the other person at the table doesn't want ranch. These server's really don't think about that it seems. A lot of people usually SHARE an appetizer. Usually it's not just for one person.
teleburst
"Therefore, according to your logic, ALL sandwiches in the world must come with fries."
NO, that is NOT what I meant and YOU KNOW it. I mean that it was on THAT MENU. You just don't want to admit that because it stated that, that I had a REAL REASON to believe it. See some menus have over a section "Served with fries", that way I would have KNOWN it wasn't EVERY sandwich that "THEY" serve. It's not like I did this on purpose. Plus, they paid me for the BAD service mostly. If the only mistake was the menu issue, they wouldn't have probably given me as much, like maybe $10 gift certifcate or something like that. I just know that I even reread the menu after the waitress brought it out to me and KNEW it had "ALL sandwiches." You act like I did this intentionally. There's NO WAY I'd ruin my meal just to get a freebie. My husband was finished his when mine arrived. What's the point of going out to eat with a guest if you can't eat together you know?
coorslite
"And it has always been a 99 cent charge for the sub for onion peels!"
I stated this was an OLD menu. Secondly, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS HAVE DIFFERENT PRICES. My parents live an hour away. The Outback prices for the Wallahalla pasta that I use to get before they got rid of it is CHEAPER than the New Orleans area. They chose to have DIFFERENT prices. I go to Wal-Mart even a 10 minute difference between Wal-Mart and Super Wal-Mart, for the SAME item, it is different sometimes. Location's prices VARY, so do the use of coupons from location to location. Ever heard of "Price and participation may vary?" This was a to-go menu probably in 2003 that I got the price from ok. Since then, they've gotten rid of the "Blackend Chicken Fettucine", they've added Weight Watcher's, etc. The Perfect Margarita was $6 and something cents in Tennessee. Here in Louisiana, it is $8. Prices vary by location. The margarita in tennessee was just bought at the end of Aug. around the day of the storm. I bet the Tennesse margarita price is still $6 and something cents as I paid it in Aug. Some prices went up since Katrina hit overhere. My point is prices vary from location to location.
"By the way Applebees has a marinated chicken sand that comes without bacon yet has fries."
http://www.applebees.com/Menu_Sandwiches.aspx
This should PROVE they really DON'T have a GRILLED CHICKEN sandwich WITHOUT BACON. I'd be paying for the BACON, considering I didn't want the bacon at that time. I also didn't want Bar-q-que sauce either on it. That is the ONLY sandwich here in louisiana that list grilled chicken that is NOT a Weight Watcher's item. So I REALLY DON'T KNOW where you are getting this from?
"And it has always been a 99 cent charge for the sub for onion peels! You are retarded do you know that?"
If you look on the website, you will see I'm NOT one.
"SUB ONION PEELS EXCEPT GRILLED STEAK FAJITA ROLLUP
$0.75"
Straight off the internet. You are a retard for not realizing prices vary by LOCATION, DUH! Quit trying to act like you are a KNOW IT ALL, when I've PROVED you DON'T!
I've also noticed that Applebee's did improve the internet menu as to grouping the sandwiches because I mentioned the problem. The Tango Chicken sandwich used to be listed under sandwiches on the internet menu, now it's listed under the weight watcher's menu on the internet. I reported that when I sent my complaint in, in september about that even the internet had GROUPED the sandwiches together, which they did at the time, but they've changed it probably because of my complaint. |
teleburst
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"teleburst
"Therefore, according to your logic, ALL sandwiches in the world must come with fries."
NO, that is NOT what I meant and YOU KNOW it. I mean that it was on THAT MENU. You just don't want to admit that because it stated that, that I had a REAL REASON to believe it".
No, I DON'T know it. You took the statement "literally", without applying a scintilla of common sense. Why wouldon't I assume that you wouldn't continue to take it literally? Literally, it says that all sandwiches come with fries. Is a Big Mac not a sandwich?
I looked at a pdf of the menu and it's clearly divided into separate sections and it's clear that the statement referred to that section. The statement is only included in that section. It isn't in any other part of the menu. Furthermore, if you weren't sure, all you had to do is look at the description of the item that you ordered. First of all, the calories were clearly marked. If you think that the sandwich AND fries are 370 calories (and 7 Weight Watcher points), then you're obviously deluded. And when you read the description of the item, it clearly says that it's served with a side of fruit.
No, you screwed up by interpreting a statement incorrectly and you just can't admit it.
You lose.
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lords_of_acid
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teleburst
"No, you screwed up by interpreting a statement incorrectly and you just can't admit it."
NO, I read what the menu stated and took the menu for what it stated. Where is there a pdf of the menu? I only have seen it on the website only.
"The statement is only included in that section. It isn't in any other part of the menu."
As I stated before, All means ALL, so different sections don't mean a damn thing, it's the fact it states that "ALL" sandwiches, meaning, ALL of them, especially at that time, the internet menu GROUPED them ALLTOGETHER as to say the weight watcher's sandwich was a sandwich that included fries.
"it clearly says that it's served with a side of fruit."
As I said before, it's suppose to include pineapple pieces as well as fries.
"Furthermore, if you weren't sure, all you had to do is look at the description of the item that you ordered. First of all, the calories were clearly marked. If you think that the sandwich AND fries are 370 calories (and 7 Weight Watcher points), then you're obviously deluded."
Just because of the pdf it list the calories, doesn't mean that the real menu does. I don't remember seeing the calories listed, nor would I pay attention to that considering I was paying attention to what came on the sandwich and what was suppose to come with the sandwich. |
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Lords the more you type this crap the more you prove yourself to be a MORON.
It must be exhausting to you and the people around you. |
teleburst
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"teleburst
"No, you screwed up by interpreting a statement incorrectly and you just can't admit it."
NO, I read what the menu stated and took the menu for what it stated".
Therefore, a Big Mac MUST come with fries, right? Because it says that all sandwiches come with fries. That means that even YOUR sandwiches at home come with fries. Oh wait, you can't even make a sandwich. Sorry.
"As I stated before, All means ALL",
In your own mind, of course. The rest of the known universe understands the truth.
"so different sections don't mean a damn thing",
According to YOU, of course.
"it's the fact it states that "ALL" sandwiches, meaning, ALL of them, especially at that time, the internet menu GROUPED them ALLTOGETHER as to say the weight watcher's sandwich was a sandwich that included fries".
Were you on the internet at the time? I thought you were in the restaurant. :snigger:
BTW, I don't think that you remember what the internet menu said correctly. You can't even read a restaurant menu correctly. If they had wanted to include the WW sandwich, they would have put that statement OUTSIDE of the sandwiches section, like at the front of the menu.
"Just because of the pdf it list the calories, doesn't mean that the real menu does".
The pdf is an EXACT copy of the menu, even down to the graphics and the pictures.
"I don't remember seeing the calories listed, nor would I pay attention to that considering I was paying attention to what came on the sandwich and what was suppose to come with the sandwich".
If you weren't paying attention and you crossed in the middle of the street and a bus came by and hit you, you'd still be dead. You just sunk yourself, because you admitted that you weren't paying attention. YOUR FAULT.
"Where is there a pdf of the menu"?
I'm sorry that you're too stupid to use a search engine. I found it in about 2 seconds. It's a pretty menu with lots of pretty pictures and pretty graphics...in fact, an exact duplicate of the in-restaurant menu. That's what pdfs are. |
lords_of_acid
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teleburst
"If you weren't paying attention and you crossed in the middle of the street and a bus came by and hit you, you'd still be dead. You just sunk yourself, because you admitted that you weren't paying attention. YOUR FAULT."
It WASN'T my fault that I KNEW what I read that "All sandwiches include fries." I KNEW what the sandwich was suppose to come with, so I didn't have to know about the calories.
"Were you on the internet at the time? I thought you were in the restaurant. :snigger:"
No, but I remember seeing them group ALL the sandwiches in one section on the internet menu. So, that was WAY before I ever got that sandwich even. It still was grouped together even AFTER I ate the sandwich. I went to the website RIGHT AFTER we left Applebee's.
coorslite
It's funny how you've never responded considering I proved you WRONG! Maybe you should go to another Applebee's in another state and see the price differences. Overhere, onion peels ARE $0.75 NOT $0.99 according to the internet menu. Even when I was 21 yrs old, I remember going around the french quarter in downtown new orleans and going to a McDonald's where because it was mardi gras, they charged the combos like around $5, instead of the $2.99 or close to that price it was at the time. I would go to another McDonald's in new orleans, but not around the french quarter and get the normal sale price that it usually was. Also, one time, my mom and I went to Burger King that was connected to a gas station. The Burger King didn't have breakfast combos of $1.99 because it was owned by different people. "Price and participation may vary" is the point I am trying to make. |
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The true question is, if you charge a combo, will it pay?
Lords, that's why menus are grouped into sections. The Italian section will have sides of pasta that come with it; a Continental menu will have a baked potato and veggie side, and the sandwich section will say they come with fries.
Yes, the chicken sandwich was technically a sandwich, but it was in the Weight Watchers section, not in the sandwich section. The Weight Watchers section didn't include fries.
What part of that do you not understand? Where did you go to school? |
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Sorry Lords I have a job where I work to make money... I can not waste my entire day or night worrying about you and your idiot responses. You were right I was wrong. The entire 2 and a half years I spent working 60 plus hours a week at Applebees in no way compares to your knowledge of all things. Thank god we all have you to rely on to tell us our jobs and just how inferior we are to you! I feel so guilty going to work today and making a mere $148 when I should've been home on my computer worrying about you! HOW SELFISH OF ME! YOU WERE REPLYING FIRST! AND I JUST DIDN'T CARE AND WENT TO WORK! I AM SO MEAN!Get a job, get a hobby, get a life! |
lords_of_acid
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big_momma
"Yes, the chicken sandwich was technically a sandwich, but it was in the Weight Watchers section, not in the sandwich section. The Weight Watchers section didn't include fries."
As I said before, sections DON'T mean a thing when the menu stated "ALL SANDWICHES" and the fact that the internet menu actually GROUPED ALL THE SANDWICHES at the time, including the Weight Watcher's Tango Chicken Sandwich. They changed it because I told them about that they grouped ALL the sandwiches together on the internet. WHO cares if it's not in the section, it's the fact that the menu stated "ALL" with NO exceptions for ANY sandwiches? The menu states ALL sandwiches include fries, ALL means ALL, whether in the section or not. When you are going to understand that I didn't ask her because it stated "All sandwiches include fries." I believed the menu and the fact that I remembered the sandwich being grouped with the rest of the sandwiches on the internet.
coorslite
In texas, the onion peels are $1.29.
http://www.applebees.com/Menu_Sandwiches.aspx |
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delusion
One entry found for delusion.
Main Entry: de·lu·sion
Pronunciation: di-'lü-zh&n, dE-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin delusion-, delusio, from deludere
1 a : the act of deluding : the state of being deluded b : an abnormal mental state characterized by the occurrence of psychotic delusions
2 a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated b : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self
- de·lu·sion·al /-'lüzh-n&l, -'lü-zh&-n&l/ adjective
- de·lu·sion·ary /-zh&-"ner-E/ adjective
For More Information on "delusion" go to Britannica.com
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lords_of_acid
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coorslite
I said this about that you didn't respond because I thought I saw you responded to another posts today, but I was wrong. Sorry for saying you didn't respond so quickly.
"Your idiot responses. You were right I was wrong."
Look in the mirror. The idiot response came from you with the fact that you don't even know that stores and restaurants whether or not they have the same name or not have DIFFERENT prices. Were you born under a rock that you didn't know this? Trying to prove me wrong by telling me I'm a retard, when you don't know things also. I may not know a lot of things, but for you to first call me a retard is just wrong when you aren't looking at your mistakes, because if you did, you wouldn't have said my response was an "Idiot" response, because it wasn't, it was SMART. Your response was "Idiotic." |
coorslite
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big_momma you are wonderful! Hope you had a wonderful day at work today! Being from this planet and a self supporting human I applaud you and all of my other fellow working servers! I am now drinking a coorslight in your honor. And will drink many many more for our other friends on this board! You rule my world! |
big_momma
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Aw shucks Coorslite, that's sweet. I'm drinking a silver bullet as I type. My day was fantabulous at work and I hope yours was too.
I too am glad we live on this planet. Lords needs to start her own planet. She's not making any headway here on earth. One needs common sense to thrive here. |
coorslite
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No kidding! But she is good for a laugh and now my boyfriend is telling tales of her sub human behavior at his job! My day was GREAT! Not only did I make $148 but I got a catering job for a Christmas party getting me another $200 in my pocket for 5 minutes worth of work in 2 weeks! Gotta love being us and so thankful we are not her! I love Coors Light! So glad you do too! Just opened another one in your honor!!!!!!!! |
big_momma
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Oh she's great for a laugh, that's for sure! Luckily the world isn't saddled with too many bitter, stupid people like her.
Congrats on the party gig! I'm very glad we're us too. She's a miserable person but imagine being her husband? I feel badly for him. If she rants like this here imagine living with her and having to listen to it?
Finishing my final Coors Light of the evening, 6 AM comes fast. |
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You know her husband has got to have some hot hot hot chick on the side! I'm going to finish my 12 pack before I go to bed... drinking for all of us tonight! Yeah and believe it or not all I have to do is deliver the food and bring it in! Have a great day tomorrow! You so deserve it! |
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Hey, Jammie, what're you gripin at me for? I think you misread my post, because you just agreed with what I said.
S'alright. I'm giving up on this forum anyway- it mostly revolves around an insane person (Lords) that seems to spend every night at a chain restaurant and every day complaining about it. Good for a laugh for a while, but she kinda lost me when she complained that the waitress mentioned Hurricane Katrina the day of the storm. Guess losing your job, home, friends, quality of life and financial means in an afternoon makes you a little crabby. |
lords_of_acid
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"She kinda lost me when she complained that the waitress mentioned Hurricane Katrina the day of the storm."
The waitress DELAYED our food to chit-chat. That is just plain WRONG. If she wants to talk, do it when she has no requests, otherwise, she should be doing her WORK. We were hungry because it was like around 5:00p.m. and still didn't have lunch yet. We didn't want our food delayed longer than necessary. I could care less about making friends with the wait staff. I want to be served. |
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" I could care less about making friends with the wait staff. I want to be served".
Yuck. What a rude, miserable wench. |
lords_of_acid
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teleburst
"Yuck. What a rude, miserable wench."
How is that rude just because I don't want to be friends with them? I wouldn't have wanted to chat with her anyway considering after she started to serve us, she didn't apologize for her mistakes, which I can't respect people like that, that can't say their sorry for THEIR mistakes. I couldn't be friends with someone like that, that is just mean. She was the one that was "RUDE" to me. She forgot the side of ranch I asked for with the mozzarella sticks because honestly she could have brought it before the food came out instead of depending on the food runner. Also, my meal arrived without the fries, without the 2 sides of mayonnaise and 1 side of mustard, with bar-b-que ranch which I specifically told her I want NO bar-b-que ranch, but the sandwich was brought out by the food runner WRONG. I bet she didn't print the ticket correctly. She still could have apologized and so could have the food runner, but instead they argued with me about that the side you get is pineapples and that it's in the weight watcher's section, when I KNEW I saw the menu state ALL sandwiches, which is what I went by, NOT the section it was in. Especially because it WAS REALLY GROUPED ALLTOGETHER with the rest of the sandwiches as if it wasn't a different section. WHO in the world wants to wait longer to chit-chat when they are hungry or thirsty? I bet a survey of 20 people, I bet 15 or so would say they'd want their order taken and that's it. I bet some would say that they would mind because they are on a date. I bet some people would like their OWN conversation. They didn't come their to make a friend. That type of stuff would be at a bar, but NOT a restaurant. Even at the donut shop a lot of people came there to chit-chat. |
tricky
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...she didn't apologize for her mistakes, which I can't respect people like that, that can't say their sorry for THEIR mistakes.
Pot meet Kettle. |
teleburst
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"teleburst
"Yuck. What a rude, miserable wench."
How is that rude just because I don't want to be friends with them"?
If you don't know what pleasant interaction with people in public is, I can't help you, or explain it to you. I hope that you didn't eat in MY Tennessee restaurant, but I doubt that you did. The menu would confuse you, although some of the items DO have those cute names that seems to impress you. Sort of like baboons with shiny objects. |
teleburst
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